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it says 4.2 turbo. is this the same as overclocked?

No, that's what it'll boost one core to if it is running a single-thread with heavy CPU load and the thermal profile is within tolerances.

For the most part that system is not terrible. The GTX 1060 is nominally the competitor to the RX 480, and seems to generally do better than it:

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB-vs-AMD-RX-480/3639vs3634

Right now:

- Try optimizing the memory timings and see if you can perhaps overclock the RAM. You will need something like memtest86+ to check that the memory is good: http://www.memtest.org/ (Use it to check stability in overclocking the RAM)
- Ditto for the graphics card : see if you can tweak it a little bit and give it a bit of extra oomph. You'll need GPU diagnostics to find out what your card is: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
- You will also want to gather info about your system. Use CPU-Z, here: https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
- Check that you have ADATA's SSD utility installed; it's a good way to keep track of how the drive is doing and read out some diagnostics if you ever need it.
- Replace the power supply with a good name-brand model. I suggest eVGA, XFX, Seasonic, or the like. Edit to add - do this before you begin overclocking anything.

Down the road:

- Consider replacing the H110 with an H170 chipset board.
- Consider replacing the heatsink/fan on the CPU with something like a Hyper 212 EVO: http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/hyper-212-evo/
- Consider adding some hard drive space: see if a Toshiba DT01ACA200 model is available on Amazon.

Aside from that if your brother has had no complaints, then the "right now" is really all you need to do.
Edited by Quantum Reality - 11/19/17 at 11:39pm
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For the most part that system is not terrible.

It is terrible. Only good things about it are the 7700 and the 1060.
It's likely he won't be able to do anything with the RAM that is worth while since it's likely cheaply made RAM and the board isn't equipped to be able to mess with RAM/timings.
Do not OC the GPU, that unit exploded while outputting 350W. I would be scared to turn on that system with that PSU in it.

Replacing the PSU, board, OS, RAM, cooling, and likely case as well, he might as well return it and start from scratch. Seriously, this has to be some of the worst parts you could pair with a 7700 and a 1060... Only thing I could see worse is toothpaste TIM and Diablotek PSU. Then again, this PSU may be even worse...
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post #13 of 24
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For the most part that system is not terrible.

It is terrible. Only good things about it are the 7700 and the 1060.
It's likely he won't be able to do anything with the RAM that is worth while since it's likely cheaply made RAM and the board isn't equipped to be able to mess with RAM/timings.
Do not OC the GPU, that unit exploded while outputting 350W. I would be scared to turn on that system with that PSU in it.

Replacing the PSU, board, OS, RAM, cooling, and likely case as well, he might as well return it and start from scratch. Seriously, this has to be some of the worst parts you could pair with a 7700 and a 1060... Only thing I could see worse is toothpaste TIM and Diablotek PSU. Then again, this PSU may be even worse...

It depends on how seriously the fellow takes his gaming. If he just wants something to kill time on, it'll work. OCN has a tendency to treat any system less than The! Best! as being terrible as blazes, when in reality middle-of-the-road computers are often acceptable compromises when money is an issue - and the system above is salvageable if the PSU is replaced. That's the main weakness right now. (it's kind of implied not to OC anything until after the PSU is replaced, anyway)

ASIDE: The heatsink in use right now is very likely the Intel stock heatsink. The original poster seems to have confused one of the case fans for a CPU fan.
Edited by Quantum Reality - 11/19/17 at 11:39pm
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post #14 of 24
To back up what AcEsSalvation said about the PSU (power supply), here's a review that JohnnyGURU did on that unit:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=65

It didn't even make it through the testing.... I would definitely take that PC back, and either find a more reputable company to buy a pre-built PC from (and have the members here look it over). An even better alternative would be still returning that PC, then starting a thread on here where you mention a budget and have the members suggest parts. You'll be able to get all sorts of opinions and different build options, then assemble the rig with your brother. A third option would be to swap out that PSU for a better one, though I'd consult either TwoCables or Shilka (both are OCN members) for a good replacement PSU. thumb.gif
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Edited by Resendiz - 11/20/17 at 12:00am
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Thanks for the info. Ill definitely let me bro know tomorrow. thumb.gif
post #17 of 24
how much did he spend on it?
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how much did he spend on it?

Asking the real questions here...

A follow-up would be: Which company sold this to them.
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how much did he spend on it?

Asking the real questions here...
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16gb Samsung Wonder RAM @2400 11-10-11-28 Samsung 840 pro 256gb Seagate FireCuda 2TB HGST Deskstar NAS 5TB 
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Apogee GTZ/MCP35X x2 in series/Koolance RP-401X2 EK-FC 780 GTX Classy - Acetal+Nickel+Backplate HWLabs Nemesis 360GTX EK-FC980 GTX Ti Classy KPE - Nickel 
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"my brother..."

OCN may be toxic and outright hostile of late, but that's low. Just let the balls drop and ask for advice. biggrin.gif
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