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Hyper 212+ or evo would be a cheap aftermarket cooler that would be far better than a stock cooler. I have a 2500K@4.6 with a 212+. Hits around 70c under stress test. Be sure to get a good thermal compound, not sure what is the best these days(I still have a tube I bought years ago lol)
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Below are the specs on my current PC. I just upgraded my GPU to the 1060 GTX and feel like I could get an even bigger boost in performance if I also upgraded my CPU. I'd like to keep things as cheap and simple as possible, but I'm not sure if I can.

Is there a CPU I can get for my 1155 motherboard that will give me a worthwhile performance boost for around $200? Or am I basically stuck upgrading my CPU, Mobo, and ram to get any kind of worthwhile increase?

I'm currently playing Battlefield One and Destiny 2, plus some older games.

Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor
GA-Z77-DS3H LGA 1155 Z77 ATX Intel Motherboard
1060 GTX 6 GB
12 GB RAM
Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
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Can someone recommend a cheap but good aftermarket cooler to use?

Guys, hate to be the bearer of some bad news but I wouldn't go for a huge OC on that chip with this particular board.
There is no VRM cooling, or a lot of power phases, it was not meant to push chips much.

There are two versions of this 1.0 with only a 4-pin CPU power connector (worst case) or 1.1 which at least has an 8-pin.
If it's the latter you could get away with something mild, but it's really not worth blowing your board trying to push the chip.

If you really want to push your chip, my suggestion would be to find a decent OCing board used/cheap along with a decent cooler.
Edited by candy_van - 11/20/17 at 8:14pm
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Can someone recommend a cheap but good aftermarket cooler to use?
I listed three coolers. The Noctua and Phanteks I named are about $64 and $50 respectively. The Cryorig is around $35.
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Guys, hate to be the bearer of some bad news but I wouldn't go for a huge OC on that chip with this particular board.
There is no VRM cooling, or a lot of power phases, it was not meant to push chips much.

There are two versions of this 1.0 with only a 4-pin CPU power connector (worst case) or 1.1 which at least has an 8-pin.
If it's the latter you could get away with something mild, but it's really not worth blowing your board trying to push the chip.

If you really want to push your chip, my suggestion would be to find a decent OCing board used/cheap along with a decent cooler.

You seem to be the only person who's made this suggestion. Everyone else here and on Hardforum has said to just buy a cooler and OC. How serious should I take what you're saying given that's the case?
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I listed three coolers. The Noctua and Phanteks I named are about $64 and $50 respectively. The Cryorig is around $35.

Thank you. Can you just confirm that this is the one to buy?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13C-000U-00005
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It will depend on which revision of the board it is, but you should still be able to get a decent overclock.
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You seem to be the only person who's made this suggestion. Everyone else here and on Hardforum has said to just buy a cooler and OC. How serious should I take what you're saying given that's the case?

Why no-one else has said anything likely has to do with the fact they didn't bother to look up your board.
Which revision of the board do you have 1.0 or 1.1 with the 8-pin?

Here's how it performed in a budget Z77 round up.

There is no option in BIOS to up the v-core for the chip.
You will be able to up the multiplier on the chip until it is not stable. but that's it.

The board is like this for a reason - it's not meant to be pushed hard with limited power phases, no VRM cooling and possibly only a 4-pin connector if you have the 1st revision of it.
Edited by candy_van - 11/21/17 at 9:38am
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Why no-one else has said anything likely has to do with the fact they didn't bother to look up your board.
Which revision of the board do you have 1.0 or 1.1 with the 8-pin?

Here's how it performed in a budget Z77 round up.

There is no option in BIOS to up the v-core for the chip.
You will be able to up the multiplier on the chip until it is not stable. but that's it.

The board is like this for a reason - it's not meant to be pushed hard with limited power phases, no VRM cooling and possibly only a 4-pin connector if you have the 1st revision of it.

I just checked and I have rev 1.0. So can you help me find a new mobo to use? I'd prefer something smaller than a full ATX if possible so that I can use a smaller case.

I will then get the H7 cooler that was recommended and OC with that.

Thanks!
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On second thought, do you guys think I should just upgrade? I don't mind putting down like $300 for a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM if that will be easier. I just wanted to do the simplest thing in terms of getting more power, but getting a new motherboard, cooler, and now overclocking is much more complicated than I was hoping for.
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Depends a lot on if you can find a used Z77 board at a reasonable price (checking forums here is your best option)

If you sell your chip ($85-90 seems to be going rate on eBay) you're in NYC so you could go to the Microcenter in Queens.

Based on your budget and (if this is strictly for gaming) you could get an i7 7600k for $180 + $30 discount on a compatible board. Then pickup some RAM and a HSF
If you wanted to go AMD and had more use for the core count you could get a R51600 for $170 and do the same kind of bundle deal.
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