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Probably because the genre can't sell loot crates or become an esport.

I hate how this is a serious reply.
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Probably because the genre can't sell loot crates or become an esport.

I hate how this is a serious reply.
DLC ammo.
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edit - and the only reason fear had decent ai was the devs decided to add a stupid time compression mechanic. Which are always terrible. And ruined the game. . .. Shocks me it has a 9 on steam. "great ai" lol.

Ill just add this here.

@Juicin

I still dont understand why this mechanic would make the game "terrible".

Perhaps someone here can properly explain this to me, since Juicin opted not to.
    
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Ill just add this here.

@Juicin

I still dont understand why this mechanic would make the game "terrible".

Perhaps someone here can properly explain this to me, since Juicin opted not to.

Read that guy's whole post and he couldn't be further from the truth, as my post on page 1 and the sources cited demonstrate. Most of today's games in most genres have objectively less content, more repetition, less intuitive and less technologically advanced gameplay, and the story driven games of today generally have less literary influence and are thus a much lower "reading level" so to speak.

AAA games (99% of them today) are no longer made for adults, they are designed for brainwashed young teenagers with very short attention spans, kids who don't study or care about literature or history and don't want to have to think while playing, hence why the games require no thinking. Plenty of objective examples of this are present in my hyperlinked thread above, and I can provide an endless amount more. I challenge anyone to name a genre/subgenre and I'll show with undeniable evidence how much worse they are in all of these aspects (though it does not apply to all genres/subgenres mind you, but definitely most).

As for how this pertains to F.E.A.R., which is obviously not a very intellectual game, F.E.A.R.'s AI is still too challenging for most of today's gamers. They don't want to ever die in a game, they want stupid brain dead AI as seen in 99.9% of games, not to mention F.E.A.R.'s AI is much more tactical than the vast majority of idiot gamers (go play any online shooter and see for yourself).

And these gamers are so brainwashed and ignorant that they don't care whether or not technology is used to enhance the gameplay like in F.E.A.R. (AI, physics/destruction, particles, sound, dynamic lighting/shadows), they just want pretty looking trailers and cutscenes with impressive animations. Somehow that is where they stop caring.

F.E.A.R.'s AI, it demonstrates some of the best dynamic pathfinding and teamwork tactics of any game. The AI acknowledges each other like very, very few games do, and work together from this and they will actually change up their tactics. No action game has better programmed AI vs a single player.
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The reason that they are not making games such as this one is because it wont sell much. It's all about cash milking lately.

I loved FEAR. I actually enjoyed the sequels as well but of course they were not close to the original FEAR.
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The reason that they are not making games such as this one is because it wont sell much. It's all about cash milking lately.

I loved FEAR. I actually enjoyed the sequels as well but of course they were not close to the original FEAR.

2nd was okay. 3rd was utter garbage - like, unplayable level garbage. Terrible story, bad mechanics, bad gameplay.
   
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Original was fine, maybe I will replay it some day. I think it failed to capture a wider audience and gain enough popularity, most modern AAA games have huge studios behind them with near infinite $$$ and they push a lot of adverts and marketing and community building.
Some games get popular via multiplayer, but I don't remember any MP from F.E.A.R.

HL was great SP but also an awesome MP with modding, instant hit.
Quake, Hexen, Blood, ... MP MP MP, modding
Operation Flashpoint (modern Arma), again MP and modding
STALKER wasn't as popular MP when I played it but again it had MP and modding and so it lives it seems until today among fans, hell I would even go as far as to say it's better than when it launched when you have all these mods ready to try and expand the game

Don't remember the later FEAR versions, my guess is as others have said they did make sequels as you "want", but they were trash. No better FPS... that depends on personal preferences, overall FPS games nowadays are way too easy and dumbed down, broken mechanics, balancing and so on. SP FPS... all with laughable AI to me.
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The reason that they are not making games such as this one is because it wont sell much. It's all about cash milking lately.

I loved FEAR. I actually enjoyed the sequels as well but of course they were not close to the original FEAR.

What makes you think a game like F.E.A.R. would not sell much today? I am positive it would. It's a simple shooter at the end of the day, and if they push the technological envelope again then it'd be seen as one of the most badass shooters in the world... again.
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Original was fine, maybe I will replay it some day. I think it failed to capture a wider audience and gain enough popularity, most modern AAA games have huge studios behind them with near infinite $$$ and they push a lot of adverts and marketing and community building.
Some games get popular via multiplayer, but I don't remember any MP from F.E.A.R.

HL was great SP but also an awesome MP with modding, instant hit.
Quake, Hexen, Blood, ... MP MP MP, modding
Operation Flashpoint (modern Arma), again MP and modding
STALKER wasn't as popular MP when I played it but again it had MP and modding and so it lives it seems until today among fans, hell I would even go as far as to say it's better than when it launched when you have all these mods ready to try and expand the game

Don't remember the later FEAR versions, my guess is as others have said they did make sequels as you "want", but they were trash. No better FPS... that depends on personal preferences, overall FPS games nowadays are way too easy and dumbed down, broken mechanics, balancing and so on. SP FPS... all with laughable AI to me.

F.E.A.R.'s multiplayer actually has a cult following. It wasn't a mainstream hit, but those who have played it say it's incredible. I actually haven't played it. What do you guys think?
 
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I loved F.E.A.R.!!!

I remember tossing a grenade down a stairwell and then kicking slow-mo in and jumping after it while the enemy was coming up the stairs. Then I shot the grenade during the slow mo decent with my pistol, causing the grenade to explode clearing the enemies coming up the stairs just in time for the slow-mo to end. Such an epic moment in my gaming memories...

I agree though, the expansions just.... let's just forget those exist.
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The first F.E.A.R. is gold, the two expansions aren't bad either. The second game is just okay and the third, I don't know what happened there but that game was awful. Couldn't even finish it.


I was just playing Extraction Point last night..Nothing beats that nail gun.
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