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I am fixing to pull the trigger on a 1950x with a ROG zeneth extreme. I am wondering if it will play nice with my current 1080ti and my Ram that I have already.(G-skill Trident RGB). Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks
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The 1080 Ti ... yes.

The RAM ... maybe. We need the model number of your RAM kit.
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The 1080 Ti ... yes.

The RAM ... maybe. We need the model number of your RAM kit.

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GTZR
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F4-3200C16D-16GTZR
They will work with Threadripper. Probably not at full speed or the low timings they are rated at though.

Ryzen and Threadripper tend to play best with single-rank RAM that has Samsung B dies. For G.Skill RAM, that's the 3200C14 2x8GB/4x8GB kits or 2x8GB/4x8GB kits at 3600 and higher (possibly the 3200C15 as well but I don't know for sure).

However, even with Samsung B dies you aren't guaranteed to run the RAM at rated speed and timings. There's just a better chance with them than with any other.
Edited by MNMadman - 11/21/17 at 8:26pm
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I have a Zenith Extreme with a 1950x and a 1080 TI with Gskill Tridentz 3200 RGBs. My ram is the CAS 14 64gb(16gb*4) kit.

You will be fine. The zenith extreme is a good board.
    
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I have a Zenith Extreme with a 1950x and a 1080 TI with Gskill Tridentz 3200 RGBs. My ram is the CAS 14 64gb(16gb*4) kit.

You will be fine. The zenith extreme is a good board.
Your experience may have been good, but another person with the exact same hardware could have a very different experience.

Even the 8th Gen Intel Core CPU with Z370 boards can't guarantee consistent results.

Quality hardware and known-good brands (which the Zenith and Trident Z are) certainly increase the chances of success, but that only gets you so far. Luck plays a significant part as well.
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Your experience may have been good, but another person with the exact same hardware could have a very different experience.

Even the 8th Gen Intel Core CPU with Z370 boards can't guarantee consistent results.

Quality hardware and known-good brands (which the Zenith and Trident Z are) certainly increase the chances of success, but that only gets you so far. Luck plays a significant part as well.

If you buy a memory kit from the Asus memory QVL (from the support page) you will have a great time. I even run 3200 CAS 14 with 16GB dimms. 4*8gb kits are on the QVL up to 3600.

None of that is guaranteed, but that is always the case in buying expensive memory. If you get a budget board and want to run the fastest memory you can be in a world of hurt. The Zenith Extreme is a great board, and my only criticism of it is the confusing way of setting up NVME Raid (need special bios, many settings before the raid shows up in the bios, etc)

He should have the expectation that getting the memory speeds he wants is not just plug-and-play. Getting those speeds is very possible though, and the random hard resets I had with the MSI X399 do not happen with the Zenith Extreme. I would pay $200 just for an Asus bios imo. Don't be like me and cheap out - buying two boards!
    
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G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GTZR

You will need a 4*8gb Kit of ram, or you will not be running quad channel. I did not see any 4*4gb setups on the Memory QVL, but that might be an option if you are strapped for cash (memory is expensive now, 4*8GB B-die will cost ~$450+)
    
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G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GTZR
You need 4x8 or 4x4.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1636655/x399-threadripper-1950x-performs-poorly-when-in-dual-channel-someone-confirm/0_20

Dual channel is a waste to use on TR, you should get 2x8 extra to get 4x8 total. Don't have to, just should.

For gaming, which your rig is currently build for, the 7700K will be faster in most <2017 titles. On newer that will start to change. TR is not a gaming CPU, simple as that, otherwise it's great.
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from a gaming perspective the extra memory bandwidth doesn't magically make TR 2x faster, a couple of percent at best, with RAM prices as they are, use what you've got until your flush, Dual channel will be fine but slower than Ryzen 7 due to going between chips

If you are not in need of the cores or platform benefits of X399 then a Ryzen 7 1800X would save you a lot of dough for same gaming performance.
Edited by sandysuk - 11/24/17 at 9:10am
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