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"We are here today to ensure future protections for kids, youth and everyone when it comes to the spread of predatory practices in online gaming and the significant financial consequences that it can have on families and has been having on families around this nation."
"This game is a Star Wars themed online casino designed to lure kids into spending money."
"It's a trap."
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Suppose parents have no responsibility of preventing their kids from spending money on this versus card games like magic the gather or collectibles like shopkins which are the exact same thing. Bring in the goverment! Save the children!
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Didn’t think it was real since looked a little homemade but Googled the guy and its legit.
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I think this is not the point gamers are complaining about. The point is pay to win. They can have skins all they want.
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Suppose parents have no responsibility of preventing their kids from spending money on this versus card games like magic the gather or collectibles like shopkins which are the exact same thing. Bring in the goverment! Save the children!

So you're saying it's just as easy for a young kid to get money from their parents, get transportation to a brick and mortar store and purchase Magic packs than it is to press a "Purchase Now" button on the family gaming console?
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Seems like this topic is getting blown out of proportion. I don't like this practice, but it would be hard to call this gambling under current laws. It's not like your betting to win money. Much like arcades and carnivals get away with it because your betting money for a chance to win prizes such as toys and stuffed animals.

EA certainly is receiving allot of bad press over this and maybe Disney / Lucasfilm will decide to step in and do something. I think the only reason this is now being such a big deal is because of the large fan base Star Wars has. Nobody ever cared about this when it only happened in mobile or F2P games.

Hopefully this will help sway game publishers away from these types of practices when several governments are looking to restrict sales because of it.
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Suppose parents have no responsibility of preventing their kids from spending money on this versus card games like magic the gather or collectibles like shopkins which are the exact same thing. Bring in the goverment! Save the children!

Game publishers should have morals. You don't turn young kids into gamblers out of pure greed. It's way too easy for developers to rig the loots boxes to hit the revenue targets they want. I have zero problems with game developers selling skins etc for a reasonable price. Look at how Rust video game does it, they sell skins for 99cent to $4.99. They don't sell loot crates with rigged % chance.

The loot crates are a form of gambling. People are spending $$$ for chance to get item they want. Just because you receive something, doesn't mean it's not gambling.
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Seems like this topic is getting blown out of proportion. I don't like this practice, but it would be hard to call this gambling under current laws. It's not like your betting to win money. Much like arcades and carnivals get away with it because your betting money for a chance to win prizes such as toys and stuffed animals.

EA certainly is receiving allot of bad press over this and maybe Disney / Lucasfilm will decide to step in and do something. I think the only reason this is now being such a big deal is because of the large fan base Star Wars has. Nobody ever cared about this when it only happened in mobile or F2P games.

Hopefully this will help sway game publishers away from these types of practices when several governments are looking to restrict sales because of it.
No, not being blown up enough.

No, people care about it plaguing mobile and F2P games.

Bigger voices get heard. Your logic is like saying people didn't care about slavery until the majority of people were against it.
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I think Hawaii should concentrate resources on their dire situation regarding the homeless population, not some stupid videogame company.
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So you're saying it's just as easy for a young kid to get money from their parents, get transportation to a brick and mortar store and purchase Magic packs than it is to press a "Purchase Now" button on the family gaming console?

I am saying if you cant trust your kid to spend appropriately on on entertainment they shouldn't have the ability to.
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Game publishers should have morals. You don't turn young kids into gamblers out of pure greed. It's way too easy for developers to rig the loots boxes to hit the revenue targets they want. I have zero problems with game developers selling skins etc for a reasonable price. Look at how Rust video game does it, they sell skins for 99cent to $4.99. They don't sell loot crates with rigged % chance.

The loot crates are a form of gambling. People are spending $$$ for chance to get item they want. Just because you receive something, doesn't mean it's not gambling.

And if you don't agree with their morals, dont buy their games, no one is clamoring to stop killing people in games. If loot boxes items are trade able, then sure disclose the chances, but this is no different than magic the gathering or Shopkins, except for at some point in time you are guaranteed to loose access to what you buy. Gambling requires risk of losing value. non tradable items have no value except to the owner. Don't like it, dont give them money.
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