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New AMD Ryzen Build. Suggestions would be appreciated!

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#1 ·
Hey guys,

Well, I'm planning to build a new PC since I gave my current one to my wife and I'm using my laptop meanwhile. To start with I already got the case, the monitor and two SDDs

Case: Thermaltake Versa C21 RGB ATX Mid-Tower Chassis
Monitor: LG 23MP67HQ IPS 23" (1080p)
SDD1: Crucial MX100 SSD 128GB
SDD2: PNY XLR8 CS2111 SSD 240GB

I was thinking to get as motherboard the ASUS ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071SGQP1Q/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1) and maybe an AMD Ryzen 5 1600X Processor. For videocard an AMD RX 580 or RX 570 (4GB). Maybe an M.2. NVME SSD later on.

The fact is I'm not gonna build it right away, want to complete it in 3 months tops. So tomorrow is Black Friday, I got around $ 250 to start (yeah black friday got me with the pants down, too sad I get paid on 30th). So what should I get first tomorrow, any suggestions would be appreciated, taking in mind I would only game at 1080p.

Thanks for your help in advance
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There are new Ryzen CPU's and motherboards coming out in Q1 2018. So idk if that will fit in your 3 month window but it something to consider. I wouldn't consider a nvme drive as they are not much faster for most things. However they do look nice. The b350 strix is a good option for a 1600x. Make sure to get some cas14 3200mhz ddr4 to go with it. Ryzen loves those b-die stick's.
 
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There are new Ryzen CPU's and motherboards coming out in Q1 2018. So idk if that will fit in your 3 month window but it something to consider. I wouldn't consider a nvme drive as they are not much faster for most things. However they do look nice.
Thanks for the info, that's something to have into consideration. I just tried to rush to build a PC, because I got to know I will be dad! My baby will come around july on the next year, so I want to buy that first and then start buying the stuff for the baby!! I already got plans, I have to teach the baby to build his/her first PC!

And taking in mind there will be new Ryzen CPUs on 2018 Q1, maybe I would get some deep discount on the current CPUs, I don't know. Or should I just be better off getting the PSU, RAM first, if I find some nice discount tomorrow?
 
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Thanks for the info, that's something to have into consideration. I just tried to rush to build a PC, because I got to know I will be dad! My baby will come around july on the next year, so I want to buy that first and then start buying the stuff for the baby!! I already got plans, I have to teach the baby to build his/her first PC!

And taking in mind there will be new Ryzen CPUs on 2018 Q1, maybe I would get some deep discount on the current CPUs, I don't know. Or should I just be better off getting the PSU, RAM first, if I find some nice discount tomorrow?
Congrats...

Indeed if you want to get the ram and psu first. I believe the seasonic focus plus 650w is on sale this week. Which is basically one of the best if not the best psu you can get currently. But as far as ram I would try to get 3200mhz Samsung b-die ram which is cas 14.
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Congrats...

Indeed if you want to get the ram and psu first. I believe the seasonic focus plus 650w is on sale this week. Which is basically one of the best if not the best psu you can get currently. But as far as ram I would try to get 3200mhz Samsung b-die ram which is cas 14.
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Thanks a lot! x2.

Weill take a look on that PSU also on the RAM.
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#6 ·
I think I will grab today the motherboard ASUS ROG STRIX B350-F GAMING ($109.99 on Amazon and Newegg) and the PSU Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-850FX 850W 80+ Gold ($89.99 on Newegg).

Also I tempted going for the ASUS ROG Strix X370-F GAMING ($129.99) because it's the daily deal at amazon, but I don't know whether it will be overkill or not, since I'm not planning to overclock a lot.
 
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You dont need an 850 watt PSU for a system that will draw less then 350 watts at full load
 
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You dont need an 850 watt PSU for a system that will draw less then 350 watts at full load
Hey, thanks for your help. I was trying to find the same Seasonic but rated at 650W and couldn't find it cheaper, so I went for this 850 watt PSU that was on sale. Would I have any problem? I appreciate advices. Thanks!
 
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Hey, thanks for your help. I was trying to find the same Seasonic but rated at 650W and couldn't find it cheaper, so I went for this 850 watt PSU that was on sale. Would I have any problem? I appreciate advices. Thanks!
You wont have any issues if it was around the same price you are fine. We just want you paying way over the price for something you wont need.

Also the x370 has better vrm's which you might not need. But it might be a better fit for future upgrades if needed. Next years ryzen is compatible with this years boards and possibly the 2019 ryzen 2 might work with this years board as well.
 
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The 550 watt is only $10 cheaper due to the sale on the 850 watt so at that point you might as well go with the 850 watt
Really wish the lower wattage models would also get a discount as multi GPU setups are dying
 
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The 550 watt is only $10 cheaper due to the sale on the 850 watt so at that point you might as well go with the 850 watt
Really wish the lower wattage models would also get a discount as multi GPU setups are dying
Indeed Iv been wanting to get one of the 550w models but i can't really justify paying that much for it. Plus i only want it because it is smaller then my G3 and would be easier to cable manage in my case.
 
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Thanks a lot for your help. And yeah the price point for the 850watts PSU, I think it was alright. I just cancelled my order at amazon and I'm ordering the ASUS ROG Strix X370-F
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#14 ·
Just some suggestions for you:

CPU:Ryzen R5 1600
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113435

Motherboard: ASRock AB350M Pro4
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236173

Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125906

PSU: SeaSonic Focus Plus 550w
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151189

Now some will disagree with me here on a few things so let me show you why I picked what I picked:

CPU: Overclock the CPU to 3.7 with stock cooler. Saves money not having to buy a cooler. If you get the 1600x, you must buy a cooler so you're probably looking at about an extra $30 and up for a decent one.

RAM: The RAM is 2666. A lot of folks will tell you to go with 3200 for more performance. It will increase performance...slightly. According to Tech Deals, it's not very much. If you want best then go for it but here is the video I am referencing:
https://youtu.be/mOWx5LH4uBo

Graphics Card: Same thing pretty much. There isn't a huge difference at 1080p between the 3GB and 6GB models for the price difference in the cards. I went with nvidia on this because of card prices. Once again, Tech Deals sums this up:
https://youtu.be/gNhvmP8yNE4

Everything else I just went by reviews and prices. Total before Shipping: $684.86

I hope this helps. and Congrats on becoming a Dad. It's awesome.
 
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@kegger, i have a 1600 oc’ed to 3.85 and when i set the ram to 2666 it gers beat by a 3.8 oc with ram speed of 3200 in Cine 15 run. Now, not sure how that translates to games since i’ve always run mine at 3200. Also, it is not just the speed but the Cas latency at 3200. Ideally, it should be at CL 14 tight timing. It has to do with the infinity fabric design on Ryzens that causes a bottleneck at lower ram speeds. Of course, the speed of the cpu matters as well. It should, imo, at least be 3.8 GHz. If paired with a mid level gpu, maybe the 2666 is fast enough.
 
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@kegger, i have a 1600 oc'ed to 3.85 and when i set the ram to 2666 it gers beat by a 3.8 oc with ram speed of 3200 in Cine 15 run. Now, not sure how that translates to games since i've always run mine at 3200. Also, it is not just the speed but the Cas latency at 3200. Ideally, it should be at CL 14 tight timing. It has to do with the infinity fabric design on Ryzens that causes a bottleneck at lower ram speeds. Of course, the speed of the cpu matters as well. It should, imo, at least be 3.8 GHz. If paired with a mid level gpu, maybe the 2666 is fast enough.
I agree with you. Did you watch the video I linked discussing ram and the testing he performed?

The overclocking to 3.7 is to keep him from buying an aftermarket cooler. Maybe he could go a little higher on that than 3.7, I don't know. I just saw the videos with testing and thought I would share.
 
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posted on the wrong thread sorry, not sure how to delete my post.
You cant
 
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Originally Posted by kegger View Post

Just some suggestions for you:

CPU:Ryzen R5 1600
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113435

Motherboard: ASRock AB350M Pro4
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820236173

Graphics Card: Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125906

PSU: SeaSonic Focus Plus 550w
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151189

Now some will disagree with me here on a few things so let me show you why I picked what I picked:

CPU: Overclock the CPU to 3.7 with stock cooler. Saves money not having to buy a cooler. If you get the 1600x, you must buy a cooler so you're probably looking at about an extra $30 and up for a decent one.

RAM: The RAM is 2666. A lot of folks will tell you to go with 3200 for more performance. It will increase performance...slightly. According to Tech Deals, it's not very much. If you want best then go for it but here is the video I am referencing:
https://youtu.be/mOWx5LH4uBo

Graphics Card: Same thing pretty much. There isn't a huge difference at 1080p between the 3GB and 6GB models for the price difference in the cards. I went with nvidia on this because of card prices. Once again, Tech Deals sums this up:
https://youtu.be/gNhvmP8yNE4

Everything else I just went by reviews and prices. Total before Shipping: $684.86

I hope this helps. and Congrats on becoming a Dad. It's awesome.
Thanks a lot for your help and for the congrats on becoming dad!!
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I already got the motherboard, an ASUS ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING, and also got my PSU, same model you suggested but 850 watts version, since it was on sale as well. And I backordered some RAM, I'm not sure if it will be on stock, "G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) AMD X370 / B350 Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3200C14D-16GFX", but I was recommended to get B-die samsung ddr4 because of its low timings.

Didn't want to get an ASRock MB, because I have had bad experiences in the past regarding to quality, but I guess that's luck.

But I'm divided on the CPU side, I'm not sure what to get, I even thought between 1500x, 1600 and 1600x, since I'm trying not to spend a lot, but don't want to regret on getting something that might not perform well for my needs (Gaming at 1080p atm, but prolly would update later on). And I have been looking at the GTX 1060 as well, but being torn between that or AMD 570/580.
 
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If you are going to buy aftermarket cooling then grab the 1600x. If you wanna stock cool with mild overclock go 1600. That's just what I would do.
Thanks for your answer. I will aim for the 1600x, I can get an aftermarket cooler. I think the last thing I will get will be the videocard, I will pair my system with a GeForce 8600GT 1GB I got lying around meanwhile, at least will get video
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*** BUILD UPDATE ***

Hey guys!!

My build is going slower than I thought it would take, unexpected spendings appeared. Anyways I think I'm being forced to cut my budget. This is what I already got!

Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING
PSU: Seasonic FOCUS Plus Series SSR-850FX 850W 80+ Gold
Case: Thermaltake Versa C21 RGB
SSD: PNY XLR8 CS2111 SSD 240GB

Now I'm aiming for 8GB RAM instead of 16GB, since DDR4 is being so expensive at the moment. The CPU, I think I will grab a Ryzen 5 1600 so I save on the cooler. And for videocard, I wanted to grab a Radeon RX 570 but they are so expensive and hard to find right now. So I'm divided between a GTX 1050 Ti, a GTX 1060 3GB or a GTX 1060 6GB (but my budget is really tight so I don't know what to get).

I think I will get this RAM kit https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231900&ignorebbr=1

Problem is I want to finish my build by february, tops starting march, since the laptop I'm using can't run games very well. I have a budget of around $200 every month. By the end of this month I want to buy another piece. Any suggestions please?

I want something to game at 1080p (RPGs, MMORPGs, FPS, RTS) for around 3 years from now. What can I do with $500 - $600 in the next 3 months.

Thanks for your help and advice!
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New Ryzen CPUs are very close. They might be better for you and may even make current Ryzen prices go down a little more.

Is there any way to return some of your parts? Like the motherboard and power supply? Nice chunk of change to be saved dropping to a good b350 board and a lesser wattage power supply.
Hey thanks for your answer and I don't think I will return my parts, since I got them at a really nice price on black friday, so I will keep them. So you suggest me waiting a bit more for the new ryzen cpus?
 
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If you are going to buy aftermarket cooling then grab the 1600x. If you wanna stock cool with mild overclock go 1600. That's just what I would do.
If you plan to OC, buy the 1600 + aftermarket cooler. When comparing both OCed 1600 & 1600X, the performance is very, very minimal
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It's not too far away. If anything it should lower the price on the current Ryzen CPUs. I realize you got those at a good price but $50 is $50. I would wait until you have all your money and buy the rest at one time. Just my 2 cents. That way it will be easier to return should you have a DOA part or something. It would suck to get outside the return window and have to do RMA instead of a much quicker return/swap/replace. If you had all the money now, I would say go for it because you could always be waiting for something. Since you have to wait 2-3 more months anyway, then just wait til you have it all saved up and then pull the trigger on a new build.
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