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The early indicators for AMD's Ryzen Mobile platform are strong, both on the CPU and GPU side of the equation. With respect to battery life, however, the picture for us is still pretty murky and we're going to reserve judgement for now. Frankly, we don't feel like the HP machine we picked up at retail is a very compelling solution overall...

As we showed, a GeForce MX150 puts up next level performance over Ryzen 5 2500U's Vega 8 IGP at least, though the question still remains how a Ryzen 7 2700U would compare with 2 more Radeon CUs and a touch more clock speed at its disposal...

Ultimately, it will come down to what AMD's OEM partners like HP, Lenovo, Acer, and Dell can pull together for laptop designs with Ryzen Mobile. It would seem the product lends itself very well to premium configurations, if battery life can be managed in thin and light designs. Either way you slice it, our early view of Ryzen Mobile is encouraging with some real bright spots, coupled with a bit of uncertainty as well.

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This is the first professional Ryzen mobile review that I've come across. It looks like AMD is delivering well on the processor side, but HP is holding out on certain premium features. I've been looking to jump from my current Surface Pro to a Ryzen mobile based system and raw CPU/GPU performance seems to justify an upgrade. That being said, I'm thinking the HP Envy may not be the best indication of what Ryzen mobile can do. Once again the main thing standing between the full potential of an AMD mobile part is the OEMs.
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I wonder if the Ryzen Desktop APU's will be faster then the Ryzen 3 series. I'm sure they had a chance to optimize and possibly change a few things. Not expecting an extreme change but maybe a small jump in performance. smile.gif

But I really just want a low powered htpc. biggrin.gif
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I'm curious if they'll wind up having something like the zbook X2 with a Ryzen solution... And maybe as a 15-17" too,that would be nice (although the current 14.4" could suffice, I suppose, I just prefer the larger ones)
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Man these things would be so sick with more bandwidth...
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Well the Lenovo one is only single channel memory from the slides I've seen so it looks like Ryzen mobile may be gimped a bit... Hopefully not though because it should be far better than Intel's offering.
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I wonder if the Ryzen Desktop APU's will be faster then the Ryzen 3 series. I'm sure they had a chance to optimize and possibly change a few things. Not expecting an extreme change but maybe a small jump in performance. smile.gif

But I really just want a low powered htpc. biggrin.gif

If it's only one CCX they likely will be faster and better than Ryzen 3 quadcores.
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I wonder if the Ryzen Desktop APU's will be faster then the Ryzen 3 series. I'm sure they had a chance to optimize and possibly change a few things. Not expecting an extreme change but maybe a small jump in performance. smile.gif

But I really just want a low powered htpc. biggrin.gif

Well, they should have more bandwidth because they will take faster RAM.
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If it's only one CCX they likely will be faster and better than Ryzen 3 quadcores.
Honestly without the core communication problems brought about by infinity fabric, we may end up seeing these parts being better for gaming. Who knows? But with more juice and bandwidth I think the desktop versions will be really nice for an HTPC.
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I'm curious if they'll wind up having something like the zbook X2 with a Ryzen solution... And maybe as a 15-17" too,that would be nice (although the current 14.4" could suffice, I suppose, I just prefer the larger ones)
Personally I want a little 12-13” high resolution 2-in-1 that’s as thin as they can make it. Hopefully with driver issues resolved these will really shine in efficiency to the degree that will be possible.
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Personally I want a little 12-13” high resolution 2-in-1 that’s as thin as they can make it. Hopefully with driver issues resolved these will really shine in efficiency to the degree that will be possible.

I suspect our desires differ, but I could definitely see how useful a thin (yet powerful) 12-13" 2-in-1 could be. I prefer a slightly thicker portable, due to wanting to being able to hold it, probably why I keep looking at the HP Zbook X2, but don't want to know the Canadian costs, because I strongly suspect they won't be cheap. Then again, for me to even have a portable computer, it has to be just as fully featured as my desktop, although naturally I don't expect the exact same performance from such - it's why I've yet to buy any kind of laptop. Surface Pro 2017 is appealing, but I want a Wacom digitizer ~and~ a decent amount of storage as well as dedicated onboard graphics built into the tablet itself (not the keyboard, like the Surface Book).
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https://techreport.com/review/32877/amd-ryzen-5-2500u-apu-reviewed/13

^ must be terrible memory












x265 seems to use AVX2



https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-Envy-x360-15-Ryzen-5-2500U-Radeon-Vega-8-Laptop-Review.266614.0.html
^ Ryzen 5's 8 CU VEGA GPU has 2460 Firestrike Graphics
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Since this is the first commercially available notebook equipped with Raven Ridge, our Verdict can be split into two parts. The first part relates to the AMD hardware itself. On paper, the 25 W cTDP Ryzen 5 2500U APU and RX Vega 8 GPU are able to stand neck-to-neck with current 15 W Kaby Lake-R options (i5-8250, i7-8550U) while outperforming even the Iris Pro Graphics 580 in synthetic benchmarks. Combine this with the generally lower price tag and there is seemingly no reason to choose Intel over AMD with all else being equal.

Unfortunately for AMD, all else is not equal and Raven Ridge is simply not yet ready for prime time. Our test unit is extraordinarily slow and suffers from random crashes. In particular, the system would crash more frequently when stressing the GPU or running gaming loads similar to the previous generation of AMD Dual Graphics notebooks like on the Asus FX550IU. Synthetic benchmarks may reveal the Vega 8 to be faster than the aging GeForce 940MX, but the opposite is true when running most modern games. This is classic AMD for better or worse - excellent performance-per-Dollar that's ultimately dragged down by inferior drivers and developer support.

Potential buyers who are drawn in by the impressive processor performance will find the lower price attractive over an Intel Kaby Lake-R equivalent. On the other hand, gamers will find nothing but disappointment in the RX Vega 8 until its drivers are up to speed. It may be over twice as powerful as the UHD Graphics 620 in synthetic tests, but the MX150 is still the better investment for reliable 1080p gaming on a budget.

The second part of our verdict is on the HP notebook as a whole. The manufacturer has successfully incorporated Spectre-class narrow bezels onto its mainstream Envy lineup that's sleeker and just as tough as the outgoing generation. Beyond the chassis redesign, however, not much else has improved. This was HP's chance to boost all aspects of the Envy x360 15 series but we instead have the same dim 1080p touchscreen, limited color space, and PWM characteristics as last year's model. The speakers, SD reader, keyboard, trackpad, hinges, overall weight, and pulsing fan noise aren't tangibly improved over the 2016 model, either. The biggest draw, then, is the slimmer looks and perhaps the slightly longer battery life and USB Type-C Gen. 1 port on this latest redesign.

https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-2500u-benchmarks-revisited-hp-envy-x360-ssd-update?page=2
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