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Originally Posted by DemonOfElru View Post

Another one I didn't catch last night. I went back to 801 for the time being. 901 just like 804 makes things worse at least in my case.
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Bug Type: BIOS
Applicable Software/Bios Version: 901
Windows Version & Build: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, Version 10.0.16299 Build 16299
Bug Description: Only half of installed RAM is recognized/usable.

On 801:
  • 32GB installed, 32GB recognized in UEFI/Windows using default settings (2133MHz Auto/Default Profile)
  • 32GB installed, 32GB recognized/usable in UEFI/Windows using D.O.C.P (3200MHz)

On 901:
  • 32GB installed, 16GB recognized in UEFI/Windows using default settings (2133MHz Auto/Default Profile)
  • 32GB installed, 16GB recognized/usable in UEFI/Windows using D.O.C.P (3200MHz)


Memory kit is G.Skill TridentZ RGB F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR (On QVL)

Steps to re-produce:
  • Clear CMOS
  • Install 901
  • Observe usable RAM in Windows show: 32GB (15.9GB Usable). Observe Task Manager report 16GB (half) of memory is Hardware Reserved
  • Cold boot into UEFI. Observe RAM reported as 16GB
  • Clear CMOS
  • Install 801
  • Observe usable RAM in Windows show 32GB (31.9 Usable). Observe Task Manager report 125MB of memory is Hardware Reserved
  • Cold boot into UEFI. Observe RAM reported as 32GB

 

Fantastic, thank you for filling out a report in the correct format. I have added this to the OP :)

post #142 of 283
Aida64 5.95.4500

i didnt stop monitoring in aida64, the freaky fan control problem doesnt always happen. i can have aida64 run for hours with no issue, then when i try again later, problems appear (still within the same session of windows, no reboot)
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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post

Which version of AIDA64 do you use? Did you stop monitoring within it? AIDA64 can send SuperIO chip freaky creating issues of fans, etc.

For me so far 0901 non issue, see screenies, etc in this post.
post #143 of 283
@elmor With @DemonOfElru's report we can clearly see this memory disappearing cannot be related to instability, even at default settings with memory at 2133MHz the thing happens and is otherwise stable at 3200Mhz with older bios, so it would have to be diamond hard solid at 2133MHz.

And from other vendors with this AGESA in their BIOS, this does not happen. So I doubt it is related to AGESA, directly anyway.
post #144 of 283
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Originally Posted by The L33t View Post

@elmor With @DemonOfElru's report we can clearly see this memory disappearing cannot be related to instability, even at default settings with memory at 2133MHz the thing happens and is otherwise stable at 3200Mhz with older bios, so it would have to be diamond hard solid at 2133MHz.

And from other vendors with this AGESA in their BIOS, this does not happen. So I doubt it is related to AGESA, directly anyway.

I would agree, it seems likely its an Asus issue rather than Agesa.
post #145 of 283
Seems hamp fan and water pump header is just not working in 0012. Control wise.
post #146 of 283
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Originally Posted by bummerboy View Post

Aida64 5.95.4500

i didnt stop monitoring in aida64, the freaky fan control problem doesnt always happen. i can have aida64 run for hours with no issue, then when i try again later, problems appear (still within the same session of windows, no reboot)

As stated in the other ZE thread having same issue with newer version of AIDA64. Elmor has posted in C6H thread a roll out of fix to 3rd party apps is in the pipeline to resolve issue.
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 Anyone with memory channels dropping, try this test BIOS. Based on 0901.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/i9xzgsswo2yws20/ROG-ZENITH-EXTREME-ASUS-0019.zip

 

By @elmor

 

Also added to OP.

post #148 of 283
With the BIOS 0901, it looks like my RAM Settings from 0801 are still working fine.


3600Mhz - Quad Channel - CL15 - 32GB Detected - Quad Channel


Also noticed that:

> 3733Mhz Boots Up Now, and Disables 2 Sticks automatically as consequence, so it only recognizes 16GB out of the 32GB or 2 Sticks - Dual Channel.

> 3866Mhz Also Boots but Disables one more RAM Stick, so it only recognizes 8GB out of the 32GB - Single Channel


It is very interesting to see that it is booting up at those Speeds, perhaps a more polished BIOS/AGESA might allow it to be stable. Also noticed this BIOS 0019, hopefully going to test it out later today.
post #149 of 283
@elmor

A bit off-topic, but someone (Keng?) asked about opening the source for the UEFI, to which you replied no can do on account of proprietary AMI code.

But for a while I've wondered this about the rest of the things. AI Suite, Aura, the OLED control thingie... this is all ASUS' own code, right? Do you know if there was any consideration in opening up the code for any of that? Or at the very least some library with an open API we could tap into?

I ask as I'm a Linux user pretty much exclusively (sadly I have to fix some win stuff at work) and it's always really disappointing how there's never ANY software available for the superior platform. Whereas I don't really care about OCing on the OS and just go straight to BISO/UEFI even if it's available, things like monitoring, fan control and "bling config" is something that would be either nicer to do from the OS or, int the case of the lights and OLED, only make sense (?) to configure from there.

I know it can be a bit of a hard ask in terms of corporate dev investment to "divert" from Windows (even though I expect TR4 to be a platform more linux heavy compared to the more gaming-oriented ones) but we Linux folks are pretty crafty and there's a lot of us, me included, who would actually be thrilled at the possibility of firing up Qt Creator and writing their own little fan and light control software.

Not sure how well you can answer this, but it always baffles me a bit as it sounds like it's a good way to "offload" some support (I mean, this is free stuff built around what you guys actually sell) on a community that would actually like to do it, and at the very least it worked very well for, say, AMD as their open source video driver stack is really good compared to old Catalyst.
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With the BIOS 0901, it looks like my RAM Settings from 0801 are still working fine.


3600Mhz - Quad Channel - CL15 - 32GB Detected - Quad Channel


Also noticed that:

> 3733Mhz Boots Up Now, and Disables 2 Sticks automatically as consequence, so it only recognizes 16GB out of the 32GB or 2 Sticks - Dual Channel.

> 3866Mhz Also Boots but Disables one more RAM Stick, so it only recognizes 8GB out of the 32GB - Single Channel


It is very interesting to see that it is booting up at those Speeds, perhaps a more polished BIOS/AGESA might allow it to be stable. Also noticed this BIOS 0019, hopefully going to test it out later today.

Can you get 3600MHz fully stable (hci or sat stable)? I can boot just fine at 3600MHz but I've never been able to stabilize it. Max I can get stable is somewhere between 3533 and 3566.
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