Bellow is a list of parts I have picked out for an AMD build, this is what I sort of eye'ed out as a good value/performance combo for my needs.
I haven't built a PC in almost ten years, and this will be my first AMD build. Thanks to some guys here I got some of my bearings back so I was able to sort of know what I was looking at and where I stood in terms of performance.
I was hopping some knowledgeable and up to date members could do a quick build compatibility check on my parts list for things that may not work.
I'm mainly looking for some outright issues that would prevent the build from working at all. For example like if the memory doesn't work on said mobo's chip set or frequency or if said parts will not physically fit due to the ATX form factor, etc... I'm not a straight newbie but since it's been a while it's completely possible I am overlooking something.
The above is my main concern but if you see anything else, feel free to make a suggestion. Like if there is something redundant or something more cost effective for similar performance, or you spot something gimmicky/not actually needed, etc...
In case you need to know, this is a general computing/entertainment/home office work build, main focus will be on media playback especially digitally stored .flac so HiFi is a big consideration hence the expensive sound card. I don't game anymore, but included a seemingly decent GPU just in case I want to fire up an old game or maybe sample a new one.
I am planning to install Linux Mint distro on this which is why I chose an nvidia card, apparently driver support is better. Otherwise I would have chose a likely better performance to dollar radeon. It's something to keep in mind, this is not going to be a Windows machine so maybe that might add some issues I haven't thought of.
Lastly would be to see if there may be any bottlenecks or wasted performance because of such. e.g. X part is too powerful for Y part that you have so X would be useless and not used to it's full potential.
ASUS PRIME X370-A AMD Ryzen AM4 DDR4 HDMI DVI VGA M.2 USB 3.1 ATX X370 Motherboard
Mushkin Enhanced Redline 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Desktop Memory Model MRA4U266GHHF8GX2
I don't know the latest cpu clock speed to ram speed ratios but I have a feeling this could be overkill on RAM. Please let me know.
CORSAIR RMx Series RM750X 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Haswell Ready Full Modular ATX12V & EPS12V SLI and Crossfire Ready Power Supply
Corsair Force LS 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) CSSD-F120GBLSB
*I don't use much space, I have external drives and old SSD's full of stuff I can hookup.
Antec NSK4100 Black SGCC steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 low-profile quiet cooler for AMD Ryzen CPUs and APUs
Lite-On 24X SATA Internal DVD/RW Optical Drives Black Model IHAS324-17
ASUS ESSENCE STX II 24-bit 192KHz PCI Express x1 Interface Hi-Fi Quality Sound Card
Your motherboard supports raid, you may consider putting your old drives along with new drives in a raid 0 config for doubble the performance, your new drive should have same storage space as old. speed = slowest drive in raid x drive count.
You lose all data when making a raid.
The ram is not over kill at all.
However I would actually recomend spending money for more ram gb instead of higher speed. RAM GB is the main thing keeping you away from doing more. RAM speed only matters when you have very heavy cpu loads or doing bench marks.
Normally your main limitations on gams and 3d graphics would be the gpu.
Normal usage speed is pimarly dependant on hdd/ssd storage perfomance.
I would recomend spending more on these two areas.
More ram gb and faster cpu is only like for server type work. The more programs you run, the faster your cpu and more ram you need.
I went from a duall core to amd 8 core along with faster and more ram. I was very dissapointed because the perfomance stayed excatly the same after upgrading just these two components. (about 5years ago)
I am currently using a amd fx 4 core since I destyoed my amd 8 core from having the metal heat sink paste melting down from heat. No diffrence what so ever compared to 8 since I never do server type work.
Ryzen 5 1600 is only 10 dollars more on newegg way worth it for 2 extra cores .....and the Wraith Spire cooler that it comes with is all thats needed my 1600 can oc to 3.8 with that cooler my chip can only hit 3.9 so no need for another cooler ...
Ryzen 5 1600 is only 10 dollars more on newegg way worth it for 2 extra cores .....and the Wraith Spire cooler that it comes with is all thats needed my 1600 can oc to 3.8 with that cooler my chip can only hit 3.9 so no need for another cooler ...
Alright some good suggestions, but so far everything will work right? Did I make any mistakes reading anything?
As for the QVL of the motherboard, I figured any DDR4 compatible board and DDR4 spec memory should work regardless of being on the QVL or not.
One thing I'm still sort of undecided on is cases. I picked a cheap generic ATX mid tower but I really have a thing for horizontal desktops. It seems only HTPC cases come like that anymore and most of those are small.
I did however find one that does take ATX size motherboards
SILVERSTONE Black Aluminum / Plastic Grandia GD09B ATX / SSI-CEB Media Center / HTPC Case
For the awesome retro factor I would love to build on this, but I'm concerned it might be too small especially if I want to run any kind of after market cooler. I don't want to run a monster cooler, really not gonna go crazy on the OC but I don't want it to be a pain in the ass either. First I need to figure out how to OC again, last time I did it you simply changed the multiplier in the bios or the mhz frequency depending on the chip. Apparently it's changed since, that was an intel chip I last OC'ed that was like that.
Anybody have any experience with HTPC cases and if you run into any clearance issues usually, especially with multiple PCIE cards, aftermarket coolers, cables, etc.
Some where arround a tpc812 cooler is as big as it may get. It is 5.4inches high http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/tpc-812/
The case you showed up in the link is 6.6inch high.
Further more looking at back view, seems like it will accept plenty of gpus. If it should accept a Extended ATX size motheboard, which is one click larger than atx size, then it should also accept the longest gpus.
Hope you enjoy building your first computer in the last 10 years! I've seen you ask if the memory will work a couple times now, so I'll go ahead and address that. You can go to Asus's page for the x370 Prime-A, click the support tab and then you'll find a CPU/Memory support tab on the following page. You'll get a PDF that has a list of supported modules and what configuration your board supports them in. Long story short though, your selected memory is not listed as a supported memory kit. That doesn't mean it won't work, but it does mean you're on your own if you run into issues.
About your motherboard, the main reasons to choose the x370 would be multi GPU support, (presumably) higher overclocking headroom, and more of each type of IO. Perhaps this is something that interests you, but given your intended use case, I suspect it might be overkill. My recommendation here would be to get a B350 board and use the saved money to get a Ryzen 1600 instead of the 1500x.
As others have mentioned, 750w power supply is very overkill. You can easily use 400w. The GTX 950 draws less than 100w and the CPU draws less than 75w almost all the time. So you can save a bit of money here as well.
Okay thanks guys, I'm gonna make some of the adjustments you all mentioned and go ahead and order everything. Thank you, I'll let you know my final setup.
So I went with the 6 core 1600, dropped the PSU to a 550W Corsair that was refurbished, got 2x8gb of Corsair ram that was on the Asus QVL although it was slower clock speed then the original ram I had picked out. Also decided to go with the traditional Antec tower I had planned instead of a horizontal HTPC case.
The refurb PSU was a Corsair RM550x 550watt modular, also got a refurb Gigabyte GTX 950 as a decent compromise GPU.
What's wrong with a refurb unit in your opinion, PSU or GPU?
Everything arrived now except the motherboard. The one thing that did slip by me and everyone here is the budget case I got is a TOP mount PSU. I haven't seen these in cases since 2005'ish.
Will I run into any problems install mobo/CPU cooler or even this specific PSU in a TOP MOUNT psu case? The specs for the mobo say ATX, the case says it was ATX mid tower, the PSU specs said it was ATX so I don't see why it should be an issue.
On a side note, one thing that's really changed for the worst since I last built a PC is how Newegg ships. It seems they have some half assed attempt at trying to be like Amazon or something. Before you used to just get everything in one package, now I'm chasing around 7-8 orders all shipping via different private couriers or government mail services.
Tiger Direct also looks like crap now, the place used to be decent and every now and then they'd have deals on specific parts (GPU, mobo, etc) that would be better than Newegg. Overall more expensive but when you factored that they had actual retail locations you could pick everything up from it seemed like a decent compromise. I drove to the local Tiger Direct I remember last setting foot in 08, wasn't there anymore only to find out they closed retail locations all together. Their website sucks now and their prices are really crap, no longer the odd deal that's better than Newegg, and everything else is within $20 or so. Now TD the parts are $100+ more than Newegg...
Everything arrived now except the motherboard. The one thing that did slip by me and everyone here is the budget case I got is a TOP mount PSU. I haven't seen these in cases since 2005'ish.
Will I run into any problems install mobo/CPU cooler or even this specific PSU in a TOP MOUNT psu case? The specs for the mobo say ATX, the case says it was ATX mid tower, the PSU specs said it was ATX so I don't see why it should be an issue.
On a side note, one thing that's really changed for the worst since I last built a PC is how Newegg ships. It seems they have some half assed attempt at trying to be like Amazon or something. Before you used to just get everything in one package, now I'm chasing around 7-8 orders all shipping via different private couriers or government mail services.
I think a preference for bottom mount for the PSU is normal, but it doesn't really matter which way you have it. The PSU and motherboard will still screw right in and work fine. There's no incompatibility there.
Also, Newegg has a "marketplace" where they allow vendors to sell electronics things. If everything is coming via different couriers, you probably ordered from multiple separate entities selling through Newegg's marketplace.
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