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From cars to computers to connectivity, speed is an attractive quality to many people. I mean, who can’t appreciate devices or services that help you get things done more quickly?
While raw semiconductor chip performance has typically been—and still is—a critical enabler of fast tech devices, in many instances, it’s actually the speed of connectivity that determines their overall performance. This is especially true with the ongoing transition to cloud-based services.
The problem is, measuring connectivity speed isn’t a straightforward process. Sure, you can look for connectivity-related specs for your devices, or run online speed tests (like Speedtest.net), but very few really understand the former and, as anyone who has tried the latter knows, the results can vary widely, even throughout the course of a single day.
The simple truth is, for a lot of people, connectivity is black magic. Sure, most people have heard about different generations of cellular technology, such as 4G or the forthcoming 5G, and many even have some inkling of different WiFi standards (802.11n, 11ac,11ad, etc.). Understanding how or why your device feels fast doing a particular online task one day and on other days it doesn’t, however, well, that’s still a mystery.

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Gigabit in US for affordable price without caps? Yeah, that's not happening for another 15 years at least.
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Sadly 15 years is conservative IMO. Until the internet is moved to a utility and DSL/dial-up is not considered a contender for monopoly consideration nothing will change.
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And here's me struggling to get 1 MBps from Steam. :/
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Gigabit in US for affordable price without caps? Yeah, that's not happening for another 15 years at least.

I have been on gigabit symetrical service with no data caps for $60 a month for a couple years now, and no it isnt Google Fiber. It can happen, you just have to get people pushing for it.
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Gigabit in US for affordable price without caps? Yeah, that's not happening for another 15 years at least.

From Major ISPs

Currently I use Spectrum and get 50 up 5 down for 75 a month. If I lived less than 1 mile away I could get 1 gigabit up and down for the same price from a municipal internet provider. We need to get our local municipalities to invest in infrastructure. The federal and state governments are doing US citizens a disservice when it comes to internet service.
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100mbps @ 50ms across the globe > 1gbps @ 500ms across the globe.

You can have multi gigabit internet line, but the ping time technology is lagging behind = the entire internet experience is crappy.

I think ISP and network industry should start really look into cutting ping time down. Connecting from our home to the other side of the world @ 100-500ms is unacceptable.
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Originally Posted by Clocknut View Post

100mbps @ 50ms across the globe > 1gbps @ 500ms across the globe.

You can have multi gigabit internet line, but the ping time technology is lagging behind = the entire internet experience is crappy.

I think ISP and network industry should start really look into cutting ping time down. Connecting from our home to the other side of the world @ 100-500ms is unacceptable.

strictly speaking the travel speed of any communication is restricted to light speed at best, copper are usually tuned to 0.60c while fiber are tuned to 0.70c.
and thats with no additional latency between communication points and gateways, protocols with no authentication overhead and such.

ideally it should be 1c which would give us a minimum latency of 67ms ( 20,037KM distance at 299,792KM / S light speed ) from opposite sides of the world.
but even with this point in mind, a 1c communication line is impossible, the closest thing we have on that is a special type of fiber with a propagation speed of 0.997c.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/151498-researchers-create-fiber-network-that-operates-at-99-7-speed-of-light-smashes-speed-and-latency-records
Edited by epic1337 - 12/12/17 at 11:50pm
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It's also outright impossible to connect fiber around the globe in every direction. You can have a densely populated network, but the lines can only go in a few limited directions at each node. Assuming a perfect square grid, diagonal transmission would slow down to sqrt(2) as the signal zigzags alone the way. Irregular networks in real life can easily make it worse. With this in mind, ~100ms around the globe is already a physical limit unless global wireless Internet becomes a thing.
Edited by MrKoala - 12/13/17 at 12:05am
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Originally Posted by Clocknut View Post

100mbps @ 50ms across the globe > 1gbps @ 500ms across the globe.

You can have multi gigabit internet line, but the ping time technology is lagging behind = the entire internet experience is crappy.

I think ISP and network industry should start really look into cutting ping time down. Connecting from our home to the other side of the world @ 100-500ms is unacceptable.

lol. I remember the CS days when we would filter servers by ping time and people would be glad to find a server on the same coast as them so they could hit 100ms or a bit less. Another country would be well over 1000 ping. Times are changing indeed when people think taking half a second tops to send data to the other side of the earth is way too slow.
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