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[TPU] Leaked AI-powered Game Revenue Model Paper Foretells a Dystopian Nightmare

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An artificial intelligence (AI) will deliberately tamper with your online gameplay as you scramble for more in-game items to win. The same AI will manipulate your state of mind at every step of your game to guide you towards more micro-transactions. Nothing in-game is truly fixed-rate. The game maps out your home, and cross-references it with your online footprint, to have a socio-economic picture of you, so the best possible revenue model, and anti buyer's remorse strategy can be implemented on you. These, and more, are part of the dystopian nightmare that takes flight if a new AI-powered online game revenue model is implemented in MMO games of the near future.
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50+ slides with the future™ at the source. Courtesy of telemetry, of course. It reads like a bad dystopian draft for a novel.
 
#3 ·
The future is here.
 
#4 ·
isn't that anthem in the screen shots?
 
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I saw that dump on 4chan, Saturday I think it was...

If this is real, this embodies everything wrong with AAA gaming and advertising in general.

I really like how they track your password hashes for increased ability to link you to different accounts online... never mind the wifi sonar building a map of your room and using the mic to see when you get distracted and upsell you junk when you're not busy walking the dog...
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isn't that anthem in the screen shots?
Yes it is...
Anthem, the game that is going to be published by EA?

(refrains for a microsecond to not say that nobody saw that coming)

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It is set to be released in late 2018 for PC, PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.[7] According to Patrick Söderlund, EA's vice president, BioWare plans to support the game with new content and updates long after the game's official release, and that its launch will be "the start of maybe a 10-year journey" for BioWare.[8]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthem_(video_game)

10 years of planned manipulation and monetization of gamers. What could possibly go wrong?
 
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To add,

instead of watching a horror movie, read every one of those slides.

This is what they're doing on top of charging you $120 for a game.
 
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Future game and gaming PC purchases will be fundamentally dead.

Hyper inflation due to mining on GPUs, rotating and artificial price gauging due to contrived RAM/SSD/HDD shortages and CPU+ backdoors on the hardware front and continued manipulative day one DLC and the onslaught of microtransactions on the gaming front will have long lasting effects. Let's see what the future will reveal, most likely the consequences will be severe and long lasting.
 
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Yes but they have not been forcing you into micro-transactions in order to allow you to progress. Sure they create a profile for you with specific ads etc etc etc, but this is next level for a game...

As if EA was not already dead to me...They are now without a doubt!
 
#14 ·
Everyone read all the slides and ask yourself if you want to play a game like that.
 
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Originally Posted by DNMock View Post

Am I crazy or hasn't Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. etc. already been doing this for years?
You're not crazy. They have been making their apps/software more addictive. The more time you spend on their devices, the more potential $ they make. We've known companies were doing this, but to actually have detailed proof of the monster is something else entirely. To see a gamer get broken down into a series of decisions on a flowchart and see how the A.I adjust to create the optimal scenario to sell the subject gamer more. Its brilliantly insidious.
 
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But the software with the telemetry and os's could surely not lead to such a thing. /s
I mean, VR and AR is the future, guess who's trying to be a leader in it? Oculus AKA Facebook, do you know how.... how much data that can be gathered from that?
 
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As a programmer, this looks interesting. As a human being, this looks so bad...
 
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Everyone read all the slides and ask yourself if you want to play a game like that.
Of course not, and I'm not sure whether to scorn or pity those who do.

I will probably consider buying some of the publisher's stock though.
 
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so does anyone still not understand that your personal data is the most valuable commodity going?

sad thing is after 10+ years of data collecting, it's only getting worse until some real action is taken and unfortunately, i am not hopeful.
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Originally Posted by umeng2002 View Post

Everyone read all the slides and ask yourself if you want to play a game like that.
Of course not, and I'm not sure whether to scorn or pity those who do.

I will probably consider buying some of the publisher's stock though.
as appalling as that may sound, i really can't blame you.

oh wait . .
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Simple solution: stick to SP gaming only. I guess I'm in the tiny minority here but MP apart from some old classics like CS and TFC simply don't interest me at all.
 
#23 ·
This first came out as a rumor of being implemented in the new game Anthem. Devs came out and debunked this exact thing for them anyway.
 
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"The paper's slide-deck and signed papers (with corrections) were leaked to the web by an unknown source, with bits of information (names, brands) redacted. It has too much information to be dismissed off hand for being a prank."

The fact that it does have too much information to be dismissed as a prank makes me think that would be the type of thing someone wanting everyone else to think it wasn't a prank would provide. I mean, besides the fact that it's a leak by an unknown source with information about the people involved redacted. And the second date on the first slide seems to be wrong.

I'm not going to blindly believe this. It's just as easy to fool a lot of people using a scenario everyone thinks is imminent.

In any case, I have never spent any money on microtransactions, and that is not going to change in the future, AI or not.
 
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Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post

"The paper's slide-deck and signed papers (with corrections) were leaked to the web by an unknown source, with bits of information (names, brands) redacted. It has too much information to be dismissed off hand for being a prank."

The fact that it does have too much information to be dismissed as a prank makes me think that would be the type of thing someone wanting everyone else to think it wasn't a prank would provide. I mean, besides the fact that it's a leak by an unknown source with information about the people involved redacted. And the second date on the first slide seems to be wrong.

I'm not going to blindly believe this. It's just as easy to fool a lot of people using a scenario everyone thinks is imminent.

In any case, I have never spent any money on microtransactions, and that is not going to change in the future, AI or not.
The problem isn't whether you have spent money on microtransactions or not... the problem is that there is proof that different companies are working on a way to manipulate your experience in order to make you more prone to spend money.

So, having a virtual shop within the game bothers me to some extent... but having, for example, my loot drops get worse so that I finally give them some money bothers me a lot.
 
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