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4790k upgrade worth over Ryzen 5?

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I currently see a 4790k going for $250 I'm willing to spend the money and sell my 4690k but I was wondering if I should just save that money for a ryzen build considering ryzen 2 is coming out soon. I have the money now and I'm willing to spend but will this outdated platform be worth the money spent? Just wanted your thoughts on how you would go about this upgrade during this time.
 
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Really depends on your usage really. Personally, I'd upgrade the older platform. I literally JUST bought my 2600k setup used in my sig rig as an upgrade over my old locked i5 Sandy Bridge build because I personally am fine with a 2600k overclocked for performance. That and RAM prices lately, I just couldn't justify getting into DDR4 when I already had 16GB of good DDR3 handy.
 
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post

Really depends on your usage really. Personally, I'd upgrade the older platform. I literally JUST bought my 2600k setup used in my sig rig as an upgrade over my old locked i5 Sandy Bridge build because I personally am fine with a 2600k overclocked for performance. That and RAM prices lately, I just couldn't justify getting into DDR4 when I already had 16GB of good DDR3 handy.
That's a good question, there is really no need for me to upgrade considering what I actually do, game occasionally. I do stream a bit but nothing too serious. Even after overclocking I dont have the performance that I would like in my desktop during gaming and streaming which is kinda unfortunate considering how expensive everything is switching to a new platform. Getting this i7 would seem like a bandaid to the inevitable but I guess that's technology in general. In the end I think getting this i7 will stave off my need and want for a new platform. It's discouraging that z97 aren't getting a bio update for Spectre, and that's my main concern going forward, if z97 boards aren't getting an update to this does that mean that it is outdated already? Although I do love RBG, my Ram cost me $40 altogether and I don't feel like paying $90 for some cheap 8GB for a platform that needs better ram then what I would get. Maybe I'm overthinking and should just get this i7 and not think about upgrading till 2020.
 
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Originally Posted by kd5151 View Post

Your biggest hurdle is drr4 ram prices.
Yea even thinking about DDR4 makes me puke
 
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I think that price for a used i7-4790K is a tad high. Looks to be about market value. I think they're worth closer to $200 considering an i5-8400 is roughly similar in performance.

Considering you stream, hyper-threading will be beneficial for you. You're not getting the performance you want while streaming because your system is tapped out on threads. If you're considering Ryzen 5, consider an i5-8400. Ryzen 5 is probably the better value from a threads perspective.
 
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Originally Posted by chessmyantidrug View Post

I think that price for a used i7-4790K is a tad high. Looks to be about market value. I think they're worth closer to $200 considering an i5-8400 is roughly similar in performance.

Considering you stream, hyper-threading will be beneficial for you. You're not getting the performance you want while streaming because your system is tapped out on threads. If you're considering Ryzen 5, consider an i5-8400. Ryzen 5 is probably the better value from a threads perspective.
was thinking about getting a Ryzen 3 combo with Ram and motherboard for 300 selling my current i5, motherboard and Ram use that until Ryzen 2 comes out. I'm not sure I'll probably sleep on it but I think that's the way I'll go.
 
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Just wait for the Ryzen refresh if you're going to do that. It's coming with newer chipsets. Newer chipsets are the main reason I don't give much value to the AM4 upgrade path.
 
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Originally Posted by Webshow202 View Post

That's a good question, there is really no need for me to upgrade considering what I actually do, game occasionally. I do stream a bit but nothing too serious. Even after overclocking I dont have the performance that I would like in my desktop during gaming and streaming which is kinda unfortunate considering how expensive everything is switching to a new platform. Getting this i7 would seem like a bandaid to the inevitable but I guess that's technology in general. In the end I think getting this i7 will stave off my need and want for a new platform. It's discouraging that z97 aren't getting a bio update for Spectre, and that's my main concern going forward, if z97 boards aren't getting an update to this does that mean that it is outdated already? Although I do love RBG, my Ram cost me $40 altogether and I don't feel like paying $90 for some cheap 8GB for a platform that needs better ram then what I would get. Maybe I'm overthinking and should just get this i7 and not think about upgrading till 2020.
Your concern about your board lack of update from Spectre is it being outdated. Then, it certainly not. Like Pioneer, I still have a Sandy that can game. Although, I have not turned it on for awhile because of Spectre. lol

Your i5 is a perfect match to your gpu. BTW, your gpu is like $100 more now. Ever think about selling it to making profit? Prices are crazy on gpus and ram. Don't spend yet on anything. And yes, you are overthinking.
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Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post

Your concern about your board lack of update from Spectre is it being outdated. Then, it certainly not. Like Pioneer, I still have a Sandy that can game. Although, I have not turned it on for awhile because of Spectre. lol

Your i5 is a perfect match to your gpu. BTW, your gpu is like $100 more now. Ever think about selling it to making profit? Prices are crazy on gpus and ram. Don't spend yet on anything. And yes, you are overthinking.
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Yes I have my 1060 on sale on eBay now.
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although it'll never sale because of me overpricing it but it's there. Decided to buy a 1200 bundle because It was cheap. I'm probably going to buy a 1700 soon I mean it's relatively cheap for a 8 core CPU. Over kill for my 1060 but oh well.
 
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Do not buy old CPUs, period, unless they are dirt cheap. A 4790K is not worth more than $150 if that. For under $200 you can probably pick up an R5 1600 6C/12T and 8C/16T is around $300. The gain from 4690K to 4790K is minimal, even getting 5775C for specific tasks because of L4 cache is not worth it when the CPU costs a fortune.

Just save up and wait for later in 2018 when prices go down on parts. On top of that you would be buying another melting spectre CPU with bird poo under IHS.

Sure if someone was throwing away 4790K or 5775C dirt cheap I would upgrade but otherwise it's just not worth it. Intel purposefully changes the pin out almost every generation or makes other software lock outs so that they can sell more chips for mobos such as chipsets, LAN, etc. the upgrade ability is close to none on Intel platforms.
 
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Originally Posted by Webshow202 View Post

Yes I have my 1060 on sale on eBay now.
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although it'll never sale because of me overpricing it but it's there. Decided to buy a 1200 bundle because It was cheap. I'm probably going to buy a 1700 soon I mean it's relatively cheap for a 8 core CPU. Over kill for my 1060 but oh well.
Newegg is overpricing theirs too. It is not funny.
 
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

Do not buy old CPUs, period, unless they are dirt cheap. A 4790K is not worth more than $150 if that. For under $200 you can probably pick up an R5 1600 6C/12T and 8C/16T is around $300. The gain from 4690K to 4790K is minimal, even getting 5775C for specific tasks because of L4 cache is not worth it when the CPU costs a fortune.

Just save up and wait for later in 2018 when prices go down on parts. On top of that you would be buying another melting spectre CPU with bird poo under IHS.

Sure if someone was throwing away 4790K or 5775C dirt cheap I would upgrade but otherwise it's just not worth it. Intel purposefully changes the pin out almost every generation or makes other software lock outs so that they can sell more chips for mobos such as chipsets, LAN, etc. the upgrade ability is close to none on Intel platforms.
Just bought a Ryzen 1200 combo with a Asus Strix B350 gonna either wait for Ryzen 2 and get that or get a Ryzen 7 not sure yet

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Also not sure about Ram with Ryzen, will this work with 1200 and 1700? GeIL SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) Desktop Memory Model GLS48GB2400C16DC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-158-604
 
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Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post

Newegg is overpricing theirs too. It is not funny.
Selling mine for 2.5 times what I bought it for if someone buys it for that much I'm more then happy selling it we shall see
 
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I really don't want to make a new thread so I'll stick this here and I hope people see this otherwise I'll be kinda sad. Anyways, I have 2 options at this point. I'm going to get around 800 soon and I have an Asus B-350f strix motherboard Got it pretty cheap. I was wondering if I should just get a Ryzen 1700 and get a $550 GPU or sell my motherboard and get a i5 8600k with $450 left over for a GPU. I love to multitask this means I watch 4k movies/shows while gaming or 1080p streams I know that probably doesn't matter too much but I also like to steam. I think the 8 cores will be great but the main reason to get this is the best gaming performance. I have a 144hz monitor so I'm not sure if the Ryzen 7 take advantage of that but with the intel I'll only have 450 for a GPU. I'm not sure what I should do at this point. I'll probably have to wait a month for GPU prices to drop anyways.
 
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