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Great thread, loads of usual information.

Robilar, can you tell me what North and South bridge temperatures you get with the Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II coolers?

I would be interested to compaire these to the standard setup as I am thinking of getting a pair for mine.

Also, did you consider modifying the original heatpipe arrangement in order to keep the big copper heat-sinks on the VRM’s, e.g. chopping it up a little, this was my intention although I guess it will probably effect the boards re-sale value a little.
    
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Robilar,

I'm a bit confused on this text...maybe I'm reading it incorrectly:

"If you are running an E6600 or E6700, then keep the multi and stock and up the FSB until you max out"

Since I'm running a E6600...does this assume that I should keep the multi at 9.0 and then increase the FSB? Right now my FSB is linked at a 3:2 ratio (per the recommendations in my other thread).

Thanks!
Sorry that should read, "at" stock. In other words, leave it at 9x and up the fsb gradually till you max out in stability.
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NewEgg has everything, including the soundcard! NewEgg Updated Wish List I have a few last questions before I buy:
  • Is there any disadvantage to using the on-board sound vs. the $100 "shorty" bluegears b-Enspirer you mentioned?
  • What type of compound / tape etc do you use for the NB / SB heatsinks/fans? The stuff that comes with it?

Thanks once again for all of your help and guidance, you have made this process MUCH less stressful for me! And to reiterate, I am not planning on doing any OCing or additional hardware unless/until my current favorite games start stuttering / chugging, then it's OC time baby!!!

PS: I intend to take a LOT of high quality pictures of this whole process, so I'll post them here in the event they might help others with visual aids! Let me know if you have any requests etc. I amm getting really excited about this now! My finger is hovering over the Add to Cart button!!!

Pictures are a great addition!

Onboard sound uses up to 10% of system resources (especially in gaming). that alone is a reason. even though the onboard is decent, you will still get better sound quality from a decent sound card. I am waiting for my Bluegears B-Enspirer to arrive from NCIX (hopefully tonight).

The Swifttech MC21's will work fine with the Tuniq. Just make certain there is some air flow across the area (a fan in the door for example). The Tuniq being tower in design blows no air downwards to the VRM's. What case are you going to be using?

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Great thread, loads of usual information.

Robilar, can you tell me what North and South bridge temperatures you get with the Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II coolers?

I would be interested to compaire these to the standard setup as I am thinking of getting a pair for mine.

Also, did you consider modifying the original heatpipe arrangement in order to keep the big copper heat-sinks on the VRM’s, e.g. chopping it up a little, this was my intention although I guess it will probably effect the boards re-sale value a little.
With the stock heatpipes, with a thermal probe, I saw the NB hit in the mid 50's celcius under modest overclock. With the Spirit II (with probe inserted under the edge of the HS, the temps were in the mid 30's (about a 16-18 Celcius drop). This really isn't suprising as the heatpipe system Asus uses is a POS for anything other than stock settings.

also the Thermaltakes mount easily.

I never considered chopping up the heatpipes as I might have to return the board under warranty and that would invalidate it. BTW, those copper heatsinks barely make contact with the VRM's to begin with and when you consider the point of the heatpipes is to channel heat from the NB/SB up to the VRM heatsinks, the VRMS passive cooling is dealing with heat from two sources. Dumb design if you ask me.

If you look back at post 82 on this thread, you will see the VRM cooling I used from Swifttech to cover the VRM's after removing the heatpipes.

If you look at the pic, I attached (specifically the area where the heatpipes come in contact with the VRM's), you will note that they barely make contact (areas circled in red) with the chips at all.
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Sorry that should read, "at" stock. In other words, leave it at 9x and up the fsb gradually till you max out in stability.
Thanks Robilar...as always your answers are very much appreciated!

I decided to go the safe route (since I'm quite the beginner here) and try out the nTune program. I ran the "coarse tuning" option on this card. It ran its course over about 35 minutes and came back with recommended settings. I saved the "Best system.npe" profile and made it default (I remember that it settled on 3450MHz instead of 2500MHz)

Yet when I boot back up...the AI booster still shows 2400MHz. Is ASUS not letting the NTune program override it? Here's the image from my desktop:

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?i...erimageat5.jpg

Or perhaps do I make the changes on the AI booster in that "Tuning Panel" section? If that's the case...how can I pull up the saved profile from nTune to match those in the Tuning Panel?
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I only use the ntune software for gpu overclocking.

3.45 Ghz is easy with that chip and board but I would recommend doing it yourself out of the bios. Ntune is a bit buggy to begin with (Although its ok for monitoring and overclocking the gpu).


If you need help, post back. My guide covers the basics but I would start by going for 9x375 (which would be 3.375 Ghz). You will need to change some of the settings I listed but a close to 1 Ghz overclock on your chip is a good beginning.
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Pictures are a great addition!
I'm all over it - looking forward to it!

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Onboard sound uses up to 10% of system resources (especially in gaming). that alone is a reason.
Agreed - I'll add it to the build.

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The Swifttech MC21's will work fine with the Tuniq. Just make certain there is some air flow across the area (a fan in the door for example). The Tuniq being tower in design blows no air downwards to the VRM's. What case are you going to be using?
It's an Antec Titan 550 from my last machine. The case is fairly large, and has good airflow thanks to some mods and custom fan installations I did. Added to my air conditioning setup, the case should stay pretty cool. I shut off the heat vents in the "man room" so it's usually much cooler than the rest of the house (open them in summer of course for AC).

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The Thermaltake Chipset coolers come with packets of thermal paste but I only use Artic Silver 5. The no name stuff is usually crap.
OK, I'll grab some as well. THANKS AGAIN!!!
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You should be fine then. Bear in mind (as I mentioned in my guide), if you are going to go dual 8800gtx and a separate sound card AND cooling on the southbridge, that you will be limited to 150mm length for a sound card in the middle slot. (Hence the reason I went with the Bluegears B-Enspirer, its 146mm long). You won't need to worry for awhile as you are buying one gpu for now, but its a waste to buy a sound card that won't fit later.
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If you need help, post back. My guide covers the basics but I would start by going for 9x375 (which would be 3.375 Ghz). You will need to change some of the settings I listed but a close to 1 Ghz overclock on your chip is a good beginning.

Ok I'll go with your recommendation. And I don't mean to hijack this thread with my problems...I'm just trying to learn as much as I can.

When you say 9x375...I assume that means moving up from 9x266.67 (which is where I'm at right now).

Trouble is...I don't see anything in the BIOS that states 266.67. Right now I have my FSB linked at 3:2 ratio per my other thread.

I bet this is one of those things which is sitting right in front of my face but I've got my blinders on I guess!

I figured out that 1066.67 divided by 4 equals 266.75...close enough. So if I'm to go to 300 as a first step...then I change the 1066.67 to 1200?
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its a waste to buy a sound card that won't fit later.
Agreed. I added the one you suggested it's on sale at NewEgg for $95. I think I'm done now. Gonna go ahead and order. Thanks!!!
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