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that sucks...

and all along I thought I got just enough (when I bought it I thought I was gong over-kill)... well at least this one is supposed to last very long... it seems to be all about function over beauty...

so no SLi for me... and I just might loose that card reader or simply unplug it till I need it... then plug it in for a second... heheh then I will be ok if it ages well and I can OC my Quad with 1.45V to something that will make me happy... hehehe...

it seems I just barely made the cut with this PSU then...


what happens when you "over-draw" besides the obvious instability...

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should them as USBs if the Keyboard and mouse are?
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http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?...wxLCxobmV3cw==

the thermaltake toughpower 1200W is apparently really an excellent power supply. Read the review I attached from HardOCP. They push the power supplies harder than any other review site I've read.
Thank you for the link. Sorry for being electrically challenged, but I don't understand why the FSB is the determinant and not the clock speed? Moreover, my box won't even post past 1250mhz regardless of clock speed which means it's not even starting to suck on the psu?
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post #1774 of 5659
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should them as USBs if the Keyboard and mouse are?
usb keyboards and mice draw less than 2W each and are largely irrelevant in calculating voltages.
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that sucks...

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it seems I just barely made the cut with this PSU then...


what happens when you "over-draw" besides the obvious instability...

BTW.... Can you say CULPRIT FOR MY PROBLEMS!!! (together with all other three or four others )
Over draw does two things:

It creates more heat inside the power supply. 50C is the absolute ceiling that most power supplies will stay functional at. The heat causes instability leading to crashes and catastrophic failurre (boom).

Second, it shortens the lifespan of the capacitors in the power supply itself
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post #1776 of 5659
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Thank you for the link. Sorry for being electrically challenged, but I don't understand why the FSB is the determinant and not the clock speed? Moreover, my box won't even post past 1250mhz regardless of clock speed which means it's not even starting to suck on the psu?
Both have an effect but multi increases require less vcore than fsb upping does and as such create less wattage requirements. that is the one big benefit of unlocked cpu's (you and I had this discussion awhile back).

Also, you have a ton of hardware running off your psu even at stock and the thermaltake 850 power supplies are notorious for ripple (looks like they have corrected this ina big way on the new 1200w though)
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post #1777 of 5659
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Both have an effect but multi increases require less vcore than fsb upping does and as such create less wattage requirements. that is the one big benefit of unlocked cpu's (you and I had this discussion awhile back).

Also, you have a ton of hardware running off your psu even at stock and the thermaltake 850 power supplies are notorious for ripple (looks like they have corrected this ina big way on the new 1200w though)
Very informative - thank you for that lesson Robilar!

Time to replace the 850w - oh well, it lasted 2 months before becoming obsolete.

So in your opinion, even though I'm not able to post with a big FSB, could this be the PSU i.e. the cpu isn't even getting a chance to get wound up?
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Second, it shortens the lifespan of the capacitors in the power supply itself
...

what do you say Robilar... upgrade or not... I really am pushing to get the G0 Q6600 as it is...
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...

what do you say Robilar... upgrade or not... I really am pushing to get the G0 Q6600 as it is...
If you intend to go to the quad, then I would say definitely yes. Its a future proofing move if you intend to go sli as well.

The reason for the huge wattages of the new power supplies is so that your "required" wattage will fall within the 80% efficiency envelope. Most of the power supplies out there will not run at 100% output for an extended period of time. If you want a recommendation, give me an idea as to your budget for a PS.
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Very informative - thank you for that lesson Robilar!

Time to replace the 850w - oh well, it lasted 2 months before becoming obsolete.

So in your opinion, even though I'm not able to post with a big FSB, could this be the PSU i.e. the cpu isn't even getting a chance to get wound up?
Thats a possibility, also as I mentioned ripple and clean power are not synonomous with the one your currently own.
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