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My contact at Asus stated that he had heard rumours about the X38 supporting SLI but none of the rumours were internal. As far as he is aware the X38 will support Crossfire native and multi-gpu nvidia cards (meaning multiple monitor support) but not SLI.

Either we wait for nvidia's new chipset (the 790) for SLI or live with it.

The only reason we are having issues is with quads. This board is still fantastic for dual core processors. I've gotten over 500 FSB easily with a number of cpu's and hit just over 500 FSB (504 to be precise) with an E6850. There looks to be an FSB wall on the new GO stepping processors as I have gotten over 530 FSB with the older generation dual cores (E6600, an E6700, and my X6800).

The people that are going to be wanting to switch are the ones who haven't gone sli yet and picked up one of the GO Q6600 cpu's.

The X38 had better be frickin fantastic for overclocking though. I picked up the asus blitz formula yesterday (I'm debating about going crossfire with a pair of X2900XT's) and was able to get just shy of 600 FSB with my X6800 on air in about 20 minutes of screwing around.

Unless the DDR2 versions of the X38 are "much" better at stock and can routinely hit over 600 FSB without crazy cooling, they almost seem redundant over the Asus blitz boards with their crosslinx technology (you can run a crossfire rig at full 8x8x instead of 16x4x or 8x4x depending on the intel chipset board). There is no functional difference between 16x16x and 8x8x in crossfire so I have to wonder why the new chipset except to push the DDR3 market.

Its ironic because the asus blitz formula (DDR2 board) hits much higher FSB than its more expensive DDR3 cousin the Blitz extreme and is faster at stock in every bench (marginally though).


Nvidia had better figure something out with all these new quad cores that intel released. They overclock poorly on all the 680i chipsets (although the new EVGA revisions are a definite improvement). How can you push SLI as a technology when the motherboard puts limitations in place for CPU overclocking. I can understand why they don't want to liscence SLI to intel chipset boards as it would pretty much kill their intel SLI board sales but right now, I am considering selling my 8800gtx and getting a pair of ATI cards for a Crossfire setup. They are cheaper and provide almost as strong a performance as a pair of 8800gtx in sli. Plus, I have had numerous issues with SLI'd 8800GTX and game compatibility all the way from games like Ghost Recon Advanced warfighter (Which came with the 8800gtx), Call of Duty 2, FEAR, and older titles like Age of Wonders. As soon as I disabled SLI, the games worked properly. Now this was back a few months ago with older drivers but it seems all the driver releases nvidia has issued amount to fixing game compatibility issues. Why is this? With my old pair of 7900gtx in sli, I never had a single gaming issue (except I think with Aliens vs. predator way back).

As such The viability of SLI is starting to concern me. I just picked up a 22" widescreen LCD and was planning to run maxed out with a pair of 8800GTX in SLI but bad history is starting to make me look at ATI and an intel chipset board as an option. Not to mention, I have a QX6850 Quad chip ready and I'll bet that it will overclock much better on the P35 board than it does the nvidia, even with its unlocked multi.
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Soon this thread won't even be about the P5N32-E.
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USlatin, your link was to a PSU!
he needed one of those too


Robilar, EXACTLY! While you add a ton more SLI knowledge to it those are my feelings too... it is a pickle... I have to live with the instability till I submit this film the 19th but then I can take some time to mess around... I don't need SLI... but I need two video cards for 3 monitors to run together... but if I want to run two cards in XP and since it can't be an 8 series with a 7 series due to compatibility issues with their control panels.. then I am thinking I want to stay in the SLI world... if I am going to have two 8-series then why the freak not SLI them babies...

I have no clue about the release timeline for 780i chips and I am not sure if I should go to a DDR2/3 X38 board or not while it used to seem like the best bet for future-proofing...

Now I thought you'd be able to go high on the P5n32-E SLI with your extreme quad so you'd be happy, but it sounds like you might have just about had it already... when r you switching? Are you? R u going EVGA for now then X38?
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he needed one of those too


Robilar, EXACTLY! While you add a ton more SLI knowledge to it those are my feelings too... it is a pickle... I have to live with the instability till I submit this film the 19th but then I can take some time to mess around... I don't need SLI... but I need two video cards for 3 monitors to run together... but if I want to run two cards in XP and since it can't be an 8 series with a 7 series due to compatibility issues with their control panels.. then I am thinking I want to stay in the SLI world... if I am going to have two 8-series then why the freak not SLI them babies...

I have no clue about the release timeline for 780i chips and I am not sure if I should go to a DDR2/3 X38 board or not while it used to seem like the best bet for future-proofing...

Now I thought you'd be able to go high on the P5n32-E SLI with your extreme quad so you'd be happy, but it sounds like you might have just about had it already... when r you switching? Are you? R u going EVGA for now then X38?
I don't need to go EVGA. If I switch boards, I will go either with an Asus Blitz Formula (which I played with for the past weekend) and a crossfire setup or wait a couple of weeks and go with an x38 board and a crossfire setup. The X38 as I mentioned above is going to have to be signifigantly better than the Blitz Formula (a tall task!) for me to bother with it over the Blitz.

My extreme Quad will not have any issues with my current board as the multi is unlocked. I'll be able to create a ratio between increased multi and upped FSB until I hit where my cooling will allow (a lapped thermalright ultra 120 extreme and a monster fan).

Don't get me wrong, if I hadn't had issues with SLI'd 8800GTX (the only thing they ran properly on a consistent basis when I had them were the futuremark benches, coincidence? I think not), I'd likely stay with the P5N32-E as its been a really great board otherwise. I can run my X6800 at 3.9 Ghz on air stable pretty much indefinitely although the temps are high enough from increased vcore for me not to bother shortening the lifespan of my chip.

Nvidia did a good job with this chipset but now they need to either get to work with intel (not likely) or provide a newer chipset that provides similar overclocking capabilities to that of the intel P35 board with dual or quad core processors.

Incidently, I've been able to go as high as 544 FSB with the P5N32-E (at a 7x multi). Whoever said it didn't compare back in the beginning to the Intel P965 boards like the P5B deluxe was wrong.

I probably will grab another 8800gtx and give it a try again with the games I run. With the various driver revisions and my unlocked new cpu, if it runs the games stable, I will have no need to switch.

Fingers crossed!
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Robilar:

Depending on the games that you played and how long ago it was that you SLIed, I think you'll find that support and compatibility has increased with each driver release. I enjoy shooters and I can't think of a single game that I play that SLI doesn't work with.
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he needed one of those too(SNIP!)
Whoops. My bad. I just see what I want to.

I bought a Tuniq 120 since my Zalman is still in the RMA window. It looks like the HS contacts are really rough. Any recommendations for lapping this monster? It'll be my first go at it.
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I had great success with a nice and rough 250 grit paper first, two sheets... there is a lot of surface on the contact block so to speed things up go real coarse and then just jump to 600 but you might want to do two sheets also to get it sorta smooth... and then go real high like 1500... then after that sheet is toast you can either go higher or just do one more 1500... the mirror finish is easily achieved with Brasso abrasive metal polish (so I've heard)... then slip a Silverstone in there and use your TT's fan as a case fan

Robilar... what do you recommend I do? I need to get rid of this problem and will look into buying the new MoBo at the end of this month...
Now I want SLI not crossfire since I really don't want to be switching Video-cards also... EVGA?
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Well US, given litlratt's point above regarding the progression of drivers, I don't think that will help your situation compared to mine. I primarily game with my system while you are using yours for some serious video editing. As SLI seems to be your chosen path, you could switch over to the EVGA Quad revised board. I built one not long ago with a Q6700 and was able to hit 445 FSB without too much effort (but high heat output) . With your 9x multi, even 400 FSB would probably be sufficient for your needs.

Litlratt, I last had SLI 8800GTX before the start of the summer so you may be right. I primarily had issues with Ghost Recon and Call of Duty 2.
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Hey can anyone give me a little bit of guidance with this board?

I just need to know what is the maximum voltage is should set it to on air?

Voltages as follows:

HT - 1.35
SB - 1.6
NB - 1.30
VVT - 1.55 (maxed)

Is it safe to take the NB/SB further is the colling is sufficient? Will be WC the chipset soon enough

Also, what is a safe FSB for this board? I am currently at 456, but don't want to try 480+ in fear of the board blowing up

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You nb is too low., 1.45 is where you should start and aftermarket cooling is a must on the nb (the sb helps as well and you'll need sinks on the exposed vrm;s)

I'v gotten as high as 534 (at nearly 1.6 vcore mind you).

The board will puke if you push the FSB too high without extra cooling on the northbridge. Cognoscenti here has fried a couple of boards that way.
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