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Wood screws you say
So whats the cooler made form, a block of wood with a few nails stuck in
Good to see it's sorted
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I'm not at home (working atm ) but just up your FSB Datter. I'm at 1448 with no problems, don't know my volts but can check them out for you if you want. That's 3,24Ghz. Did have it on 3,46Ghz but was unstable. But will work that out. maybe some other die hard overclocker can help us out by showing us there bios-settings!?

Tip: Save your current stable config in profile 1. Up your FSB and if it boots save it as Profile 2 in your bios. After a while and some tests of course and you find it stable, overwrite and save the bios in profile 1, and overclock again saving it in profile 2. hope this helpes.
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I saved my 3.0ghz OC into profile 1 so I can try something new in profile 2 and not delete my good 3.0 settings. Nice feature that.

Any time I raise my FSB above 1333 is fails to post, which makes me think it might be volt related... I'm just not sure how high I can raise that stuff without it being a concern. I'd love to hear what yours are when you get the time, just for some relative comparison.
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The voltage-range of the Q6600 is between 0.85V and 1.5V. Try setting it on 1.5V and try to boot with higher FSB. If it does you can lower the volts and look what the min. is of your volts.

Will look this evening what my settings are atm. Will come back to you later
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Great thanks, here's a related question.. I think I'm suffering from vdroop which to my understanding is a lowering of the vcore voltage while under load. Here are my current accurate voltages as set in the BIOS. Please ignore any of the above volt info just for clarity.

Voltages:
vcore : 1.425
memory :2.1 (factory spec)
1.2v HT : 1.3
NB core : 1.4
SB core : 1.5
CPU VTT : 1.55

This gets me a stable 3.0ghz. At idle in Windows (using CPUZ and HWMonitor) I see my Vcore voltage goes down to 1.408, from 1.425 set in the BIOS. Under load (test with Prime95, Flight Sim X at max settings, and Burnout Paradise at max settings) it drops to 1.38 or so, and I saw one dip down to 1.376... again, that's from a setting of 1.425v in the BIOS.

Think this might have something to do with my 3.0 wall? I can try setting it to 1.5v as mentioned above, which means it would drop down to something in the 1.455 range under load. That might be worth a shot.

I'm definitely interested in hearing your other voltages as well when you get the chance. Thanks again.
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Okay m8, here are my settings. Some of them are temporary, like the cpu volts which I still want to bring down as much as possible and the memory settings which I am overclocking at the moment but with no success. The settings are from top to bottom, and working and stable.

System clock:
100 / 100 / 100 / auto

FSB & Memory config:
unlinked / 1440 / 800 <- 1440 == 3,24Ghz

About voltage:
Vcore 1,50000 <- still have to drop it
Memory 1,900 <- due to lack of time still have to OC it
1.2V HT 1,30
NB 1,40
SB 1,50
CPU VTT 1,55
DDRII auto / auto / auto

nvidia GPU ex = enabled <- don't know if that's good lol

Temps:
CPU 32
M/B 31

If you want to know more let me know. NP helping you out

NOTE:
Your vdrop also can be caused by a unstable PSU. Are you in the position trying a other one? And can somebody tell me if my thoughts are right, 'cause it's just a thought. Nothing scientific
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hmm, virtually identical settings to mine though my vcore is set a bit lower and as said lowers itself still more under load thanks to some vdroop. I guess 1.5v is as far as I should push that... so when it drops under load it will be a 1.455v. I guess I'll give that a shot, as said, and see if I can get 3.2 at least.

Might be my PS is causing issues. It's as new as the rest of the system and a pretty good performer from what I've read. LACK of power certainly isn't the issue at 850w but maybe it's not "clean" for whatever reason.

Failing any further suggestions, I'll try the 1.5v thing and see what that gets me. If it gets me nowhere I guess I'll just be happy with 3.0.

EDIT: Oh, thanks very much for posting that. I appreciate it.
Edited by datter - 3/12/09 at 12:25pm
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hmm, virtually identical settings to mine though my vcore is set a bit lower and as said lowers itself still more under load thanks to some vdroop. I guess 1.5v is as far as I should push that... so when it drops under load it will be a 1.455v. I guess I'll give that a shot, as said, and see if I can get 3.2 at least.

Might be my PS is causing issues. It's as new as the rest of the system and a pretty good performer from what I've read. LACK of power certainly isn't the issue at 850w but maybe it's not "clean" for whatever reason.

Failing any further suggestions, I'll try the 1.5v thing and see what that gets me. If it gets me nowhere I guess I'll just be happy with 3.0.

EDIT: Oh, thanks very much for posting that. I appreciate it.
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Great thanks, here's a related question.. I think I'm suffering from vdroop which to my understanding is a lowering of the vcore voltage while under load. Here are my current accurate voltages as set in the BIOS. Please ignore any of the above volt info just for clarity.

Voltages:
vcore : 1.425
memory :2.1 (factory spec)
1.2v HT : 1.3
NB core : 1.4
SB core : 1.5
CPU VTT : 1.55

This gets me a stable 3.0ghz. At idle in Windows (using CPUZ and HWMonitor) I see my Vcore voltage goes down to 1.408, from 1.425 set in the BIOS. Under load (test with Prime95, Flight Sim X at max settings, and Burnout Paradise at max settings) it drops to 1.38 or so, and I saw one dip down to 1.376... again, that's from a setting of 1.425v in the BIOS.

Think this might have something to do with my 3.0 wall? I can try setting it to 1.5v as mentioned above, which means it would drop down to something in the 1.455 range under load. That might be worth a shot.

I'm definitely interested in hearing your other voltages as well when you get the chance. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by datter View Post
oh good the new guy has another question. There I said it for you.

I just checked something out. I have my vcore set to 1.425v in my BIOS at the moment... it was 1.45v but I just wanted to see if I could boot with it down a bit, and I can. So with it set at 1.425 in my BIOS, CPUZ is telling me from Windows that my vcore is 1.408v

I assume this is "vdroop"... and I wonder if a drop from 1.425 BIOS to 1.408 in Windows is a lot and if so what I can do about it. I read something about a pencil mod, which just by the very sound of it alone I'm not up for though I should probably read about it I guess. Can I just crank my vcore up in the BIOS enough to make up for the droop, and will that work? If I set it to say 1.49v (-ish) BIOS side, that should give me 1.45v while in Windows I assume.

Think this has anything to do with my 3.0ghz wall?
vdroop explained here
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EDIT: Oh, thanks very much for posting that. I appreciate it.
NP m8! We all here to learn and help each other

Now I go and learn the information in Paraleyes' link. ****

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I just read (most) of it... my brain hurts a bit now thank you very much. The main thing I got from that is that vdroop may be designed into a system on purpose for various reasons... such as giving headroom for power spikes when a system is coming off of heavy load. If that's the case I'm not sure I want to be pushing my vcore any higher. I mean, I'd like to but if I purposefully overclock out a vdroop that's in place to help cover my ass for power spikes then my ass won't in fact, be covered.

Does anyone run these things at 1.5v for daily use?

Starting to think the vcore may not be the source of my 3.0 wall, and as Tarabass has his other voltages set the same as mine are (with even a lower vcore, yet a higher OC) I think I might be trapped behind this wall for good. Could ram and mem timings have something to do with it? I'm running out of ideas.


EDIT: Oh wait, one more thought then I'm out of ideas. Any benefit to lowering the multiplier to 8 and raising the FSB?

All I have left are:
  1. RAM or mem timing issue? (set to 857mhz and auto timings atm)
  2. vcore issue? (all I can do is raise it to 1.5)
  3. NB issue? (again, all I can do is raise it to 1.5)
  4. multiplier to 8 with higher FSB? (NO clue if this is a good thing or not)

Failing any of that I'll start the process of getting my volts DOWN as low as I can and maintain stability at 3.0ghz then start sorting out any memory/GPU overclockage. Sure hope one of the above help the main overclock though.
Edited by datter - 3/12/09 at 2:54pm
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