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Robilar, what do you think about a CRYO-Z on a Q6600?

What's this thing about the Q6600 putting out too much heat and "breaking" the Cryo? Would that really happen?
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Hi guys... Need some help sorting out the cooling for the board. I'm currently using Tuniq 120 for the CPU, and have purchased 2 Thermalright HR-05 for both NB and SB. I have not installed them yet as i cant decide on what to get for cooling the mosfets. I'm tyring to work out which is the most cost effective solution. Below are the choices available.

1) Swiftech MC21 as suggested by Robilar. Cost around $50 Aus for 2 sets.

2) Thermalright HR-09S, on speacial, $60 Aus for 2 units.

Based on the price, i'm leaning towards the Thermalright, more 'bling' for $10 more but from what i have read so far, it does not provide full coverage on the mosfets as compared to the Swiftech. Will that cause any performance loss?

There is also another cheaper alternative but i'm not too sure it will fit, VIZO Sleet CU Chip Cooler, 8 pieces of copper heatsinks, $25 Aus.

http://vizo.com.tw/index.php?main_pa...ts_id=31&tab=1

However, the dimenssions are 22mm (L) X 10mm (W) X 9mm (H), 4mm wider than the Swiftech. Any idea if it will fit? Thanks....
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Robilar, what do you think about a CRYO-Z on a Q6600?

What's this thing about the Q6600 putting out too much heat and "breaking" the Cryo? Would that really happen?
I doubt it. How exactly can heat output damage a copper head fed by a tubed phase unit? The worst that could happen is that you wouldn't get really stellar temps (like -50C for example) but phase is always better than air or water. I've installed a prometia system on an old prescott processor that runs much hotter than the current lower envelope C2D processors without a hiccup. Temp output from the chip is largely irrelevant. The only thing you have to worry about with chips is cold bugs or getting the dialectric grease in the wrong spots.
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any word yet on the installation of the thermalright ultra 120 extreme?

side note- anyone know of any place in canada to get the mosfet heatsinks Robilar noted here or something similar that would work?
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Hi everyone! This is my first post here. I'm such a n00b in overclocking but I'm pretty sure Robilar's instructions and experience of all will teach me a lot. Thank you all!

I'm planning to build a new system and I'd like to ask you a few questions. First off, I'll definitely go with Intel EXXXX CPU, Asus P5N32-E SLI (possibly Plus) board, Raptor 74, 2X1GB RAM, 8800 XXX graphics, Antec 18X case and 700+W power supply. I wish to buy E6700 and 8800GTX and I'm waiting for more price cuts

Here I go:
1) What is the difference between P5N32-E SLI and the Plus model in terms of overclocking and general performance? There is like a 30-bucks gap (plus being cheaper!) and it's not a trivial decision.
2) Will PC2-8500 RAMs post with P5N32-E boards without manual settings? What's your recommendation for RAM? Are PC2-8500 worth the price gap compared to PC2-6400?
3) Will SATA optical drives post immediately? I'd like to go SATA but I don't want to risk not being able to install the OS.
4) Would you say there is a significant performance difference between Zalman 9700 and 9500AT?
5) For the PS, I'm thinking about Thermaltake Toughpower 750W. I wonder what you have on it.

Many thanks in advance! I really appreciate your time...
1. The plus is a decent board but its not a true 680i (uses the nf570 for the sb). For the $30 difference go with the 680i. The difference in overclocking is minimal (the plus can still get close to 500 FSB but the non plus will do better)

2. Is PC-8500 ram worth it? Only if you intend to run your ram at faster than 800 Mhz speeds. 8500 ram will run up to 1066 stable without crazy voltage. If the settings are auto, the ram will only run at 800 mhz at the default maker timings. Unless you are using sli ready ram and enable the feature, then it will auto run at 1066 at maker approved timings. I'd go for it. Gives you more overhead.

3. Sata optical drives work fine (and if you have no ide drives, you can disable the ports and get boot up faster)

4. The 9700 is about 5C better than the 9500 (I have both )

5. Stay away from thermaltake. For 750W go enermax, silverstone or pc power and cooling (or 700w the seasonic)
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Robilar - how are you doing with the Ultra Extreme fit in the 830, any heat tests etc?

BTW, I could not get the quad above 320 no matter what multi I used. It just won't post which is similar to the EVGA unit before they fixed the problem.

What I did do is increase the multiplier to 11 x 320 (3.52Ghz) and it is running without any stress at ~31-33C in Everest/pc probe and the cores are ~46-52C in Core Temp.

As expected it lasted less than 2 minutes in Prime95 before it shot up to 70C. Very frightening. I'll leave it here just to see what the temp does during the stress of live trading tomorrow. If it's stable I might leave it here but I know I need a better cooler which is why I'm very interested in your results although I realize the heat characteristics are different on your chip.

Do you think there might be some advantage to trying a lower fsb and higher multi as you advised to try in the other thread? The reason I ask again is that I've got this far too expensive memory here that I would lose the fsb:ram ratio on. Right now it's 3:5 which my understanding is a good ratio...but I don't know. What should I try next?

Thank you.


i picked up my ultra extreme on friday just haven't had time to install it (took my daughter to canada wonderland this weekend to get or family season passes and opened up my cottage. I need a vacation!)

It will fit but very bloody tight (approx 2mm space between them) but no performance issues as a result.


Everest and PC Probe do not measure the cpu cores accurately. Only use core temp.

You are right about the memory ratios, leave them as is. 70C under load is pretty bloody high. Going to the ultra will probably shave about 6-7C off that which makes in manageable. Then again, nothing else you run will push the cpu as high as prime95 or orthos so its likely that you temps will be in the high 50's under normal load with the ultra. That temp is certainly within the intel thermal envelope guidelines (and a nice OC to boot!)

I expect to install the extreme tomorrow (I'm flying into chicago on business today). I'll run it overnight and post back some temps.
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any word yet on the installation of the thermalright ultra 120 extreme?

side note- anyone know of any place in canada to get the mosfet heatsinks Robilar noted here or something similar that would work?
I got them at bigfoot computers

http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Merc...tegory_Code=40

I'll be installing the extreme tuesday evening.
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Hi guys... Need some help sorting out the cooling for the board. I'm currently using Tuniq 120 for the CPU, and have purchased 2 Thermalright HR-05 for both NB and SB. I have not installed them yet as i cant decide on what to get for cooling the mosfets. I'm tyring to work out which is the most cost effective solution. Below are the choices available.

1) Swiftech MC21 as suggested by Robilar. Cost around $50 Aus for 2 sets.

2) Thermalright HR-09S, on speacial, $60 Aus for 2 units.

Based on the price, i'm leaning towards the Thermalright, more 'bling' for $10 more but from what i have read so far, it does not provide full coverage on the mosfets as compared to the Swiftech. Will that cause any performance loss?

There is also another cheaper alternative but i'm not too sure it will fit, VIZO Sleet CU Chip Cooler, 8 pieces of copper heatsinks, $25 Aus.

http://vizo.com.tw/index.php?main_pa...ts_id=31&tab=1

However, the dimenssions are 22mm (L) X 10mm (W) X 9mm (H), 4mm wider than the Swiftech. Any idea if it will fit? Thanks....
Go with the Swiftech set. I tried two other copper cooling solutions. One set (made by thermaltake) didn't fit properly and two of the sinks fell off. The other set by vantec stuck fine but didn't fully cover the mosfets. The swiftech set fits exactly to cover the mosfets (I measured the areas before I bought them) and they are light enough that they stick on solid.
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I need some help overclocking my system. I have a p5n32-e sli board with geil pc6400 ram and a e6420. I have tried to first overclock it to 3.0ghz using the fsb at 1500 however i cannot get my ram ratio to be 1:1. My ram is running at 4-4-4-12 1T. My ram ratio is like 10:11 right now

Does FSB/RAM ratio affect the system's overclock? My current overclock of 3ghz is unstable.

Help?!
fsb affects ram speed unless you are running your ram unlinked. The ram ratios kick in to compensate for whatever you are pushing your cpu at. Also your geil ram may not like 1T. Try 2T (Even though its slower) and see if it increases stability.

Also fill out your system specs completely so I can help you better.
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If I missed anyones post (busy weekend!), please re post it here and I'll get back to you today (sitting in a meeting, they really shouldn't give me internet access!).
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Intel 6800K Asus X99-A II Zotac 1080Ti AMP Extreme Edition G. Skill Trident Z - 32GB/ 3200Hz/CL14/Quad  
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Sandisk Extreme Pro 480GB Corsair H100i V2 - w/ML120 Pro Fans Windows 10 Home 64 Bit Acer Z35P 1440P G-Sync 
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Steelseries Merc  EVGA Supernova G2 1000W Corsair 450D Mionix Naos 8200 
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Inwin Batmat Aluminum Sound Blaster Z Logitech Z906 - 5.1 Maxnomic Commander S-III Gaming Chair 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel G3440 Asus B85M-E/CSM EVGA GTX 950 Patriot Viper 3 - 2x8GB 1600hz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung EVO 850 - 500GB + 4TB/3TB x 2/2TB WD Green LG CH12LS28 Bluray Scythe Big Shuriken 2 w/Corsair SP120 Fan Windows 10 64 Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 75" TV.... GooBang Doo MX3 Corsair CX430 V2 NMEDIAPC HTPC 6000B w/ Pro LCD Module 
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GooBang Doo MX3 
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Murder Box II
(18 items)
 
Home PC
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 6800K Asus X99-A II Zotac 1080Ti AMP Extreme Edition G. Skill Trident Z - 32GB/ 3200Hz/CL14/Quad  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Sandisk Extreme Pro 480GB Corsair H100i V2 - w/ML120 Pro Fans Windows 10 Home 64 Bit Acer Z35P 1440P G-Sync 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Steelseries Merc  EVGA Supernova G2 1000W Corsair 450D Mionix Naos 8200 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
Inwin Batmat Aluminum Sound Blaster Z Logitech Z906 - 5.1 Maxnomic Commander S-III Gaming Chair 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel G3440 Asus B85M-E/CSM EVGA GTX 950 Patriot Viper 3 - 2x8GB 1600hz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung EVO 850 - 500GB + 4TB/3TB x 2/2TB WD Green LG CH12LS28 Bluray Scythe Big Shuriken 2 w/Corsair SP120 Fan Windows 10 64 Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 75" TV.... GooBang Doo MX3 Corsair CX430 V2 NMEDIAPC HTPC 6000B w/ Pro LCD Module 
Mouse
GooBang Doo MX3 
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