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fsb affects ram speed unless you are running your ram unlinked. The ram ratios kick in to compensate for whatever you are pushing your cpu at. Also your geil ram may not like 1T. Try 2T (Even though its slower) and see if it increases stability.

Also fill out your system specs completely so I can help you better.
Great I will try 2T. Though it it is still quiet unstable :S I have checked the guide out and changed my voltages. Is 1.4v vcore best for over 3ghz?

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At the moment i'm running my ram unlinked. Is that the way to do it on these boards?
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actually it now keeps failing :S

I was wondering if someone could walk me through to see if i'm doing anything wrong
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Many thanks Slehcim, Robilar!

I think I'll go for an SLI ready 2x1GB PC2-8500 sticks. Is OCZ the best in this?

Wow, I didn't know Thermaltake PS sucked as much as to avoid it eyes closed. I'll take the advice, thanks.

I have a final question (well maybe not ) : I read news about Intel's price cuts in Q3. Price of Q6600 (266x9, 1066FSB) and E6850 (333x9, 1333FSB) is said to be at USD266. I know it's not possible to compare them now since E6850 is not around yet but given that Q6600 is running hot, would you say E6850 would have better OC performance?
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Robilar - how are you doing with the Ultra Extreme fit in the 830, any heat tests etc?

BTW, I could not get the quad above 320 no matter what multi I used. It just won't post which is similar to the EVGA unit before they fixed the problem.

What I did do is increase the multiplier to 11 x 320 (3.52Ghz) and it is running without any stress at ~31-33C in Everest/pc probe and the cores are ~46-52C in Core Temp.

As expected it lasted less than 2 minutes in Prime95 before it shot up to 70C. Very frightening. I'll leave it here just to see what the temp does during the stress of live trading tomorrow. If it's stable I might leave it here but I know I need a better cooler which is why I'm very interested in your results although I realize the heat characteristics are different on your chip.

Do you think there might be some advantage to trying a lower fsb and higher multi as you advised to try in the other thread? The reason I ask again is that I've got this far too expensive memory that I would lose the benefit of the fsb:ram ratio on. Right now it's 3:5 which my understanding is a good ratio...but I don't know. What should I try next in terms of ratios?

Edit: been stressing the system with all the business apps that I usually run and the temp hasn't broken 40C and I haven't picked up any weird problems.

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Many thanks Slehcim, Robilar!

I think I'll go for an SLI ready 2x1GB PC2-8500 sticks. Is OCZ the best in this?

Wow, I didn't know Thermaltake PS sucked as much as to avoid it eyes closed. I'll take the advice, thanks.

I have a final question (well maybe not ) : I read news about Intel's price cuts in Q3. Price of Q6600 (266x9, 1066FSB) and E6850 (333x9, 1333FSB) is said to be at USD266. I know it's not possible to compare them now since E6850 is not around yet but given that Q6600 is running hot, would you say E6850 would have better OC performance?

I (and several others here) have had great success with this board and the OCZ PC2-8500 SLI ready kits. when I bought, I called OCZ Canada first and spoke to a tech I know there. He indicated that they used a 680i board for test bed for this ram (And tried out the SLI ready features) and never encountered a single issue.

Hard to say what chips that aren't out yet will overclock to. Bear in mind that the 680i boards have a definite fsb ceiling with quad cores (although the quads have unlocked multis so there is other options) and temps go up extremely fast with quads as you OC them.

If you aren't in a hurry, wait for the price cuts, they are supposed to be signifigant. I personally have no need for a quad core although people doing video editing or other cpu/memory intensive tasks will get great results. Just keep in mind that dual core chips overclock signifigantly better on air than quads.

At this time I would venture that quad core cpus with their limited oc on air (unless you are King_pin running cascade phase) are more for usage specific apps and dual core are for everything else. I'd rather have a dual core running at 3.8 than a quad running at 3.2.
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I doubt it. How exactly can heat output damage a copper head fed by a tubed phase unit? The worst that could happen is that you wouldn't get really stellar temps (like -50C for example) but phase is always better than air or water. I've installed a prometia system on an old prescott processor that runs much hotter than the current lower envelope C2D processors without a hiccup. Temp output from the chip is largely irrelevant. The only thing you have to worry about with chips is cold bugs or getting the dialectric grease in the wrong spots.
That's what I thought... thanks for clearing it up though, it always feels better when someone points it out with you.

So what do you think a Q6600 will do with a CRYO-Z? I guess it would get -10C LOAD at least... maybe this will be the way to break 450FSB with my E6300 and I would get a Native Quad instead
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Robilar - how are you doing with the Ultra Extreme fit in the 830, any heat tests etc?

BTW, I could not get the quad above 320 no matter what multi I used. It just won't post which is similar to the EVGA unit before they fixed the problem.

What I did do is increase the multiplier to 11 x 320 (3.52Ghz) and it is running without any stress at ~31-33C in Everest/pc probe and the cores are ~46-52C in Core Temp.

As expected it lasted less than 2 minutes in Prime95 before it shot up to 70C. Very frightening. I'll leave it here just to see what the temp does during the stress of live trading tomorrow. If it's stable I might leave it here but I know I need a better cooler which is why I'm very interested in your results although I realize the heat characteristics are different on your chip.

Do you think there might be some advantage to trying a lower fsb and higher multi as you advised to try in the other thread? The reason I ask again is that I've got this far too expensive memory that I would lose the benefit of the fsb:ram ratio on. Right now it's 3:5 which my understanding is a good ratio...but I don't know. What should I try next in terms of ratios?

Edit: been stressing the system with all the business apps that I usually run and the temp hasn't broken 40C and I haven't picked up any weird problems.
Thank you.
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Like I mentioned, prime 95 and orthos are really not representative of what you typically load a pc with. Even 3dmark and top end games don't push the cores as hard as stress tests do.

Glad it worked out for you
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actually it now keeps failing :S

I was wondering if someone could walk me through to see if i'm doing anything wrong
I'll try

What I need is for you to post here the bios settings you are using (use the first page of my guide as a guideline) and let me know where you have made changes (And what) and where you haven't.

I haven't tried your chip but anything over 3 Ghz on it should be considered very decent (and also take into account the stepping of your cpu as well. there may be a ceiling to what you can do stable).
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That's what I thought... thanks for clearing it up though, it always feels better when someone points it out with you.

So what do you think a Q6600 will do with a CRYO-Z? I guess it would get -10C LOAD at least... maybe this will be the way to break 450FSB with my E6300 and I would get a Native Quad instead
I think phase will do better than anything on air or water regardless if its OCZ or any other brand.

If you can get it to run at -10C (very conservative, the numbers I saw on the OCZ have it in the range of -25 to -30 C at max output), you could get some serious overclocks.

The top 3dmark06 computer score in the world is by king_pin with a quad core QX6600, a striker extreme, and cascade phase.
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I'll try

What I need is for you to post here the bios settings you are using (use the first page of my guide as a guideline) and let me know where you have made changes (And what) and where you haven't.

I haven't tried your chip but anything over 3 Ghz on it should be considered very decent (and also take into account the stepping of your cpu as well. there may be a ceiling to what you can do stable).
I am using exactly the same voltage settings as in the guide except I put the vcore volt to 1.40. I disabled the other settings according to the guide.

I have put the ram on unlinked and set the fsb to 1600 and the mem to 800mhz. Ram timings are 4-4-4-12 2T.

Thats all the bios settings I have changed since booting. I have been working on it all day but at 3.2ghz it keeps freezing
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