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If you want top-of-the-line.... don't forget Corsair will be coming out with their AX series in a month.
AX1200's MSRP is $330 though.

So for $100 less you loose a few points in efficiency, but you still get SUPERB ripple & noise suppression. Along with great voltage regulation.

The only other difference is Enermax is a 5year to Corsair's 7 year warranty. And the fully modular. But both parts are negligible for the most part.
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo
If you want top-of-the-line.... don't forget Corsair will be coming out with their AX series in a month.
I spotted that on JG right after my initial reply and found one on NCIX to put on back order.

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Originally Posted by Tator Tot
AX1200's MSRP is $330 though.

So for $100 less you loose a few points in efficiency, but you still get SUPERB ripple & noise suppression. Along with great voltage regulation.

The only other difference is Enermax is a 5year to Corsair's 7 year warranty. And the fully modular. But both parts are negligible for the most part.
Ya, that's a kick in the pants at that price, but stalled my final decision none-the-less. I really don't know where to go at this point. I'll be honest, cost is not an issue for me personally. However, justification is.

Firstly, I'm not really enthusiastic about most Corsair PSU's (thanks to your trusty list and JG). If (and thats a big if) I were to buy a Corsair, this would be the one.

Secondly, my initial decision was to get a Coolermaster Silent 1000w. My issue with that was the ripple suppression compared to other's, so it's been nagging me for days, slowly gnawing at the back of my brain. It's just one of those little things that just won't go away.

Seeing the 1200AX (although at a premium) put me at ease, I mean really put my mind to rest. So you can see my problem here.

On one hand, I can get a reasonably decent Coolermaster supply for a fair price at the sacrifice of ripple/noise. On the other, I can feel comfortable that all my future upgrades and overclocks will be safe with the more expensive, low signal Corsair choice. (The overall efficiency is merely a bonus for me at this point, it's the 3.3v performance I'm really more concerned with)

It's finding that real sweet spot in the middle thats so bloody hard. I don't mind spending an extra 100 bucks now, if that means I don't have to spend a couple hundred more in the future for an upgrade or replacement.

Two things for this build I don't want to have to think about for a long, long time when it comes to upgrades in the future; the case and the power supply.

Any thoughts?
Edited by Stew B - 6/18/10 at 11:06am
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Personally, I would never touch a PSU with ripple as high as the Cooler Master Silent Pro M; not that it's a terrible thing, I just would rather have the cleanest, most stable power possible.

As it's shown to me in the past, I "upgraded" to a less efficient PSU; but with more stable power, and got a better overclock because of it. Now only was 200 more Mhz, but that's still enough for me to justify the reasoning.

Honestly, if you have the cash; the Corsair AX1200 is such a rock solid performer, that the only true justification I can give to it that'll seem that compelling; is we most likely will not see a unit beat it in Voltage Regulation or Ripple/Noise suppression for the length of it's warranty (7 years.)

I can say that I don't like Corsair's single 12v line approach to the unit; and if you can get the Enermax, again I highly suggest it.

But that's the only true difference I can speak of.

Both of those units do their job really well; and you'll most likely see only more efficient units in the future.
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Originally Posted by Tator Tot View Post
Personally, I would never touch a PSU with ripple as high as the Cooler Master Silent Pro M; not that it's a terrible thing, I just would rather have the cleanest, most stable power possible.

As it's shown to me in the past, I "upgraded" to a less efficient PSU; but with more stable power, and got a better overclock because of it. Now only was 200 more Mhz, but that's still enough for me to justify the reasoning.

Honestly, if you have the cash; the Corsair AX1200 is such a rock solid performer, that the only true justification I can give to it that'll seem that compelling; is we most likely will not see a unit beat it in Voltage Regulation or Ripple/Noise suppression for the length of it's warranty (7 years.)

I can say that I don't like Corsair's single 12v line approach to the unit; and if you can get the Enermax, again I highly suggest it.

But that's the only true difference I can speak of.

Both of those units do their job really well; and you'll most likely see only more efficient units in the future.
Is the poor ripple you mention inherent to the design of all the Silent Pro M PSU's or just the 1000w mentioned above?

I would like to think that 700w on my system is overkill. I could imagine that even with CF 5770's I wouldnt be pushing 400w load. How does load relate to ripple and furthermore how does ripple effect overall system performance?

All the reviews I have seen for my PSU have been good, do you differ from those reviews? More importantly, if you do differ, what documentation do you have or have links to that illustrate your claims of a poor ripple on the Silent Pro M PSU's.
Edited by Mattb2e - 6/19/10 at 1:00am
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we most likely will not see a unit beat it in Voltage Regulation or Ripple/Noise suppression for the length of it's warranty (7 years.)

I can say that I don't like Corsair's single 12v line approach to the unit; and if you can get the Enermax, again I highly suggest it.

But that's the only true difference I can speak of.

Both of those units do their job really well; and you'll most likely see only more efficient units in the future.
I couldn't agree more.

Well at this point I've thoroughly nailed it down to one of two choices and I can't go wrong with either of them. The Enermax is a solid unit and you've sold me into thinking about it, so much so that it's in the shopping cart until I get done going up and down the aisles looking for other components. Sadly, one of them will get left at the counter during checkout.

If the 1200AX hits retail by the time I narrow down my other components in the way I did this one, then that will be the one I get. If I've made a final decision on what few parts I have left to decide on before then, then the Enermax will cross the finish line with me. Sadly, there's no cute tellers to flirt with when shopping online.


The clock is the only competing factor at this point...

Now on to the next battle, a skirmish that's been raging inside for 3 long weeks. Classified 4 Way or Rampage III. (It never ends...)

Thanks man, your input has been the most valuable part of this ongoing adventure and it's greatly appreciated!
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Very good idea for this thread,should help alot of people choose the right PSU (maybe change the typo in topic?)
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...=Story&reid=62 here's the Corsair vx550 review
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Now on to the next battle, a skirmish that's been raging inside for 3 long weeks. Classified 4 Way or Rampage III. (It never ends...)

Thanks man, your input has been the most valuable part of this ongoing adventure and it's greatly appreciated!
Well Classy's have an issue with Enermax PSU's (Revo85+ & Galaxy 1200w) so I would stay away from either the board or PSU.

Also, I will update more as I pick up; and find reviews of PSU's. So bear with me while a few from the 750w and down sections are gone.

Though; most people are less worried about reviews and such of PSU's from that section. Which is why I chose to work from the top down.
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Well Classy's have an issue with Enermax PSU's (Revo85+ & Galaxy 1200w) so I would stay away from either the board or PSU.
No where in my research have I seen that little tid-bit of information. Thanks again!
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No where in my research have I seen that little tid-bit of information. Thanks again!
http://forum.enermax.com/showthread.php?t=24

&

http://forum.enermax.com/showthread.php?t=23

The issue is with the way EVGA laid out the power circuitry on the board (which is not standard) but the revision that they'll ship to you fixes the issue.
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http://forum.enermax.com/showthread.php?t=24

&

http://forum.enermax.com/showthread.php?t=23

The issue is with the way EVGA laid out the power circuitry on the board (which is not standard) but the revision that they'll ship to you fixes the issue.
Already ordered the Rampage III, with no regrets either, but thanks for the info, always good to have on hand when I get another board '-)

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