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I want to point out that just like got paid to write review, there is no way to prove what you said.

Well what you said telling me a fact that even johnny finally needs to get a normal IT job, that means even a pretty good heavily mentioned in OCN is not enough for his living, then we can think about so many other reviews websites would choose the dark way write paid review or not.
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One will. They'll get way more views, and consequently ad money if they come up as being more trustworthy than otherwise. Oh, and this will also destroy readership of other websites, meaning that ad companies will pay more to get on that one site. This is imply some very simple market logic for both ad companies and sites
Err.. what does the location of companies have to do with trustworthiness?
While it increases awareness of the product, a review is not an ad. A review is an independent analysis of a product, whether it performs up to par, whether it has any critical faults.. any faults or weaknesses for that matter. Sure, free samples are common in the industry, but that's exactly what they are. free sample. For many of us, an unreviewed product, especially like a PSU after the hilarity of Diablotek and the ****tier Coolmax PSUs will be ignored in favour of a PSU that has been reviewed, so magazines and websites have no problem not revieweing a few products: the vendor can choose to take the loss. Oh, and don't think buying samples is an option: that option is just far too expensive. It's largely a case of send a free sample, or never get your stuff reviewed as far as vendors go. Thanks to being provided free samples, sites like JG.com and TPU are able to pay their writers enough to pay the bills purely off ads contracted through an advertising agency, not vendors directly. Being paid to put ads up directly by vendors would be a thing we call a conflict of interest, and we don't like that. Not one bit.

Also, have you heard about this thing known as Journalistic Integrity? It refers to journalists writing truthfully, honestly and in an unbiased manner about anything they cover. Taking JG.com as an example, Jonny stepped down from the site completely and handed over to OklahomaWolf when he went to work for Corsair, purely to avoid any conflict of interest. THAT is maintaining journalistic integrity. I have little doubt that OklahomaWolf wouldn't step down, or at the very least, disclose that he got hired by a PSU company.
Oh really? In the immortal words of the internet since the 90s: Pics or it didn't happen.

Oh, and links of your forums full of exploding SuperFlower PSUs while you're at it. Until then, I'll still be calling bull**** on your claims.

Sorry if I'm not being the most articulate or easy to read here, but it's 2am where I am, after a rather long day of staring at C, TCP, grep, python and VHDL.....
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I want to point out that just like got paid to write review, there is no way to prove what you said.

Well what you said telling me a fact that even johnny finally needs to get a normal IT job, that means even a pretty good heavily mentioned in OCN is not enough for his living, then we can think about so many other reviews websites would choose the dark way write paid review or not.

Why are you even here? obviously you believe you know better then all of us combined so why are you even bothering?

I am not even sure if you are trolling anymore... I know a couple of people with aspergers that make arguments in the same fashion as you are currently, they believe nobody but themselves and do not listen to anybody else, set in their own ways and beliefs and will fight tooth and claw to hold on to those beliefs, even when presented with solid evidence to the contrary, My brother in law is a shining example, and you remind me of him so much, I will not get into that as I am not going to start a another rant.

So this ends NOW, Yes some reviewers may accept money from companies to give there products more favorable reviews, but ALL of them? Absolutely Not, and the ones you are accusing most certainly DO NOT!

I am sure Oklahoma Wolf from johnnyguru does these reviews because he enjoys doing them, as a kind of hobby, I for one would love to get my hands on some of that equipment and do a few reviews myself just for the enjoyment of it.

You have a very grim outlook on things and I am not sure that kind of outlook is welcome here.
Edited by jaydude - 10/16/14 at 8:50pm
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OKWolf hardly gets any revenue from it. Reviewing is a hobby and a service to the community.

The conflict of interest—I guess you could say—is that to keep the operation running, he needs to sell review samples back to the community to generate any amount of money at all, so technically I guess he's incentivized to talk up the performance of units so buyers will be interested (bashing on build quality blips is not an issue because he can fix those himself in the review sample). However, there's not much going there, and destroying his credibility would be a bigger issue.

A lot of the top review sites get kind of blacklisted by some manufacturers because of honest, poorer reviews, which is a sign of something. Maybe they took money from the other manufacturers? Dunno where you want to tinfoil hat.
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Has anyone seen the new FSP Aurum PT series?
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=398
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/FSP/PT-1200FM/

I must say i am impressed FSP has been around forever but they have never really had anything truly great but this series might just be it, i just think its a bit stupid to start the series with 850 watts when almost everyone buy 450 to 750 watts PSU´s, i would rate it as being almost if not ON par with the Super Flower Leadex platform.

Almost forgot its the first ever series from FSP that is fully modular, price is not bad either.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104187&cm_re=FSP_Aurum_PT-_-17-104-187-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104188&cm_re=FSP_Aurum_PT-_-17-104-188-_-Product
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^^^I can agree with you. Most people do not need that much power these days. Especially with the improvement of power consumption in video graphics and CPUs.
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^^^I can agree with you. Most people do not need that much power these days. Especially with the improvement of power consumption in video graphics and CPUs.

Antec has made the same mistake with the High Current Pro Platinum series, NZTX did it with the HALE 90 V2 and Cooler Master did the same with the V series even Corsair is guilty of the same with HXi series.
Dont know why they do its stupid they miss out on sales by only having 850 watts or more.
Edited by shilka - 10/17/14 at 12:58pm
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Antec has made the same mistake with the High Current Pro Platinum series, NZTX did it with the HALE 90 V2 and Cooler Master did the same with the V series even Corsair is guilty of the same with HXi series.
Dont know why they do its stupid they miss out on sales by only having 850 watts or more.

Very nice indeed, although I'm looking at the 1500-1600W category... There's a watercooled, 2-4 large-die GPU, Haswell-E or Broadwell-E build in my future...
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Antec has made the same mistake with the High Current Pro Platinum series, NZTX did it with the HALE 90 V2 and Cooler Master did the same with the V series even Corsair is guilty of the same with HXi series.
Dont know why they do its stupid they miss out on sales by only having 850 watts or more.

Totally agree with this but at least Cooler Master somewhat countered this with the VS series even tho they aren't as good.

In Holland the best buy in the lower wattage bracket has been the V550S and V650S for quite a while now imo since they are very well priced here.
What is actually the main competition for the VxxxS series? Seasonic G series are much more expensive, Earthwatts Platinums are much more expensive, Corsair CS is comparable in price but *probably?* not nearly as good? XFX TS series is comparable in price as well.
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Totally agree with this but at least Cooler Master somewhat countered this with the VS series even tho they aren't as good.

In Holland the best buy in the lower wattage bracket has been the V550S and V650S for quite a while now imo since they are very well priced here.
What is actually the main competition for the VxxxS series? Seasonic G series are much more expensive, Earthwatts Platinums are much more expensive, Corsair CS is comparable in price but *probably?* not nearly as good? XFX TS series is comparable in price as well.

The Cooler Master VS are better then all of those only one that even come close is the Seasonic G, if you say all of them cost more then the VS then there is zero competition the VS walks away from all the others.
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Yeah that's what the prices are atm here in Holland.

The V550S is around €80 and the V650S is at €90. This is with the Corsair CS550 being €70, CS650 at €80. The Seasonic G 650 is at €100, 550 at €85.

Then there's the Earthwatts 550 Platinum at €85, 650W version at €100, the XFX TS series at the same prices as the Cooler Masters and the Enermax Revo X't 530/630W at CM price + €10.
Last but not least, EVGA G1 650W, €100.

Well, for a little under €80 shipped there's no competing with the V550S then is there smile.gif

Main reason I brought it up is that my old XFX (Pro750W XXX Edition - Seasonic M12D 750w 80+ silver) is showing it's age and it's not quite efficient.
Now that I got rid of my 290X and got a 970 I don't need 750w anymore. I don't like SLI / CF so I only run 1 high-end GPU.

I'd like to replace my XFX with something a bit newer and more efficient and more quiet cause with the 290x gone the XFX is easily the loudest thing in my PC biggrin.gif

I think i'll go for the V650S then. The V550S might get a little tight once voltmod BIOS's hit for the GTX970.... Especially considering the fact my 3770K is running quite a high voltage at ~1.44v load...
Edited by Imprezzion - 10/21/14 at 2:51am
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