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If you're going to have a very high 24/7 load, then you want a high-end 1000W PSU at minimum. So, I recommend the RM1000x. I know it's $365, but this is an investment (all PSUs are an investment). When you are going to have a high load going 24/7, you want it to land at about 40-60% of the PSU's capacity for the best efficiency and PSU life/longevity.


Edited by TwoCables - 6/10/16 at 4:13pm
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post #6472 of 6753
This list is mix of search engine usage, physically visiting stores, and some online sites.

But if you want to look, I use a lot buscape.com.br to run searches, and balaodainformatica.com.br is one of the sites with most stuff available.
post #6473 of 6753
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Originally Posted by OrSpeeder View Post

This list is mix of search engine usage, physically visiting stores, and some online sites.

But if you want to look, I use a lot buscape.com.br to run searches, and balaodainformatica.com.br is one of the sites with most stuff available.
What about this EVGA 850 G2, its a great PSU, and about 250 USD.
http://www.kabum.com.br/cgi-local/site/produtos/descricao.cgi?codigo=52383&origem=1
post #6474 of 6753
Indeed, good price.

I will add to my list here.

It have one concern about it though: I am really irked by those stamped grilles, they are quite noisy, the RMx/i have better grille and fans that shut down, and my crappy 500W PSU I am using right now has better grilles too, I don't understand why someone still place those crappy stamped grilles on high-end PSUs when cheap PSUs from 10 years ago had it right.
post #6475 of 6753
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1. I can't import without getting stuff up to local prices again
True, I just checked a $100 PSU + $50 shipping imported as an individual costs in the end +$150 on the insane import duty and tax making it a $300 PSU in the end.
But there was something about products cheaper than $50 being exempt blah blah, it won't let me recalculate and I can't make heads and tails out of the insane Brazil tax system from what I search it's like you pay 10 taxes to some 10 mobsters that rip everyone off.
  1. I've got a better solution, export yourself out biggrin.gif
  2. Buy a PSU when abroad.
  3. Have someone buy it abroad and bring it to you.

OrSpeeder I don't know why EVGA uses the crappy stamped grille but even cases come with them when you pay insane $ for a case. I have the 850 G2 running it passive in hybrid mode. And I have cut out every gorram grill out of my case and fan holders.

You need to look around for a while and find some decent PSUs with a decent price as far as decent a price in Brazil can be. It seems to me your tax system is setup in such a way to enforce local products over imported ones as to protect your local market. Unfortunately this age is very much about import/export for about 60+ years now and no one has it all, especially electronics are made all over the world but half of all stuff is really made in Asia if not more...
On the other hand if you decide to make PSUs in Brazil locally you will probably "make a killing" as those insane import taxes and all will protect you from world wide competition especially cheap Asian production.
Edited by JackCY - 6/10/16 at 5:31pm
post #6476 of 6753
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  1. I've got a better solution, export yourself out biggrin.gif
  2. Buy a PSU when abroad.
  3. Have someone buy it abroad and bring it to you.

Actually, this is how I bought all my parts, except PSU, Cooler and Chassis, because those would draw too much attention of the police. (I mean, all of them are big metal blocks, it is not like you can hide those from x-ray scanners...)
post #6477 of 6753
So? Who says you can't travel with a PSU? Stuff it in your carry on or luggage when flying or traveling otherwise. If you've seen my pack sometimes, all the electronics in my carry on because I won't put it into a luggage out of my sight biggrin.gif
Or the Brazil police/customs checks you when you arrive? Since when can't you travel with a PSU, sure can travel with a laptop no? Why not PSU? They ask if you bought it on your travels you say no and move on wink.gif

Another trick is to have it marked for declaration as price below a limit over which you pay all those crazy taxes. In EU it is about 20EUR because they would go mad if they had to process at customs every one of my <$5 orders from China biggrin.gif
Isn't it $50 in Brazil? You could fit a PSU into that but it depends if they also count in shipping etc. costs, then it's not doable/believable. Some sellers just do this themselves and write something like $10 on the package so they can send it cheaper instead of a real price of $100 and you can't even do anything about it as a customer.
Edited by JackCY - 6/10/16 at 5:43pm
post #6478 of 6753
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Originally Posted by JackCY View Post

So? Who says you can't travel with a PSU? Stuff it in your carry on or luggage when flying or traveling otherwise. If you've seen my pack sometimes, all the electronics in my carry on because I won't put it into a luggage out of my sight biggrin.gif
Or the Brazil police/customs checks you when you arrive? Since when can't you travel with a PSU, sure can travel with a laptop no? Why not PSU? They ask if you bought it on your travels you say no and move on wink.gif

Another trick is to have it marked for declaration as price below a limit over which you pay all those crazy taxes. In EU it is about 20EUR because they would go mad if they had to process at customs every one of my <$5 orders from China biggrin.gif
Isn't it $50 in Brazil? You could fit a PSU into that but it depends if they also count in shipping etc. costs, then it's not doable/believable. Some sellers just do this themselves and write something like $10 on the package so they can send it cheaper instead of a real price of $100 and you can't even do anything about it as a customer.

You think the police didn't seen it all here? Of course they did, because EVERYTHING decent is purchased that way (this include my clothes, some food, and much, much other stuff).


How customs work here: when you arrive by airplane, customs scan all your bags with x-ray and other technology (it depends on various factors that affects how strict they want to be, and what is available to them that day).

After you get your bags back, then you must say you don't have anything, or voluntarily head over to customs and declare stuff.

In both cases, the police and customs might ask you to step aside so they can check if you were truthful, if you declared wrong values, or said you didn't had anything, or other lies, you will get punished, depending on what lie you told them.

The lightest punishment is for claiming you didn't had anything with you, and getting caught, the punishment is payment of all taxes twice. (ie: if you was going to pay 300 USD in taxes, you pay instead 600).

If you claim values wrong (example, claiming that I bought a EVGA 850B2, that costs 79.99 on EVGA site, costed me 50 USD), then they will charge the taxes based on local values instead (in the EVGA 850B, they will consider the "true" price to be 280 USD, that is what it costs here, THEN they will slap the taxes on top of that, THEN add the penalty mentioned above, thus the final taxes+fines result in 7 times the original correct taxes on this case).

About laptops:

There is a specific law about them, phones, tablets and cameras. They are strictly banned from imports unless you are willing to pay full taxes every time (including RMA returns, or if you bought them used, or whatever... you will always pay taxes as if they were new when crossing the border or gettign them delivered to you), UNLESS you register the ones you already own during your exit from Brazil.

Thus you CAN leave with a laptop, and bring it back. But if you bring another laptop, no matter the reason, even if it is broken, used, gifted, free, whatever, you will pay taxes as it if was new.


On road border crossings, the police will be very rough checking your stuff, and more strict.

On water-based crossings, if it is a proper port, it is more or less like airports... if it is NOT a port, and you are crossing by a random river, you might be considered a drug smuggler, and shot and killed on sight. Doesn't matter if what you was actually importing was tomatoes (yes, this actually happened, tomatoes in Argentina are like a third of the local price).

If you cross in a private airplane, you can also be shot down.

If the value is high enough, you also need special permits, that aren't free.

If you claim a obviously new product was used, RMA, refurb, whatever, the police can legally take it and never return.

Finally, stuff "getting lost" on customs is very normal.
post #6479 of 6753
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UNLESS you register the ones you already own during your exit from Brazil.
That is bonkers. You should go with #1 and export yourself.
post #6480 of 6753
Sorry if this is a repeated question here but I have to ask this;

Just saw this model for sale on Newegg - http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103085

Is it worth buying and using, or is it "utter rubbish" (shilka's usual terminology here).

Use to remember they had produced sterling units some years ago still used in server rooms around the world but they went silent, until I saw their latest product on Newegg.

As usual, would appreciate some serious commentary here regarding this power supply because it is "Platinum" based and attracted my attention immediately.
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