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Originally Posted by PsychoKilla666 View Post
Nice, thank you, sounds like the Sparkle wins due to a great price cut
I have an ungodly amount of HDDs so I think I could handle the Corsair but the Sparkle seems higher performer since it is GOLD rated
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Originally Posted by marduk666 View Post
the Sparkle Gold series 1000w is very good and cheap and certified 80+ gold .
Efficiency ratings have no determination on the performance of a unit.

With the amount of HDD's you have you may want to look at enabling Staggered Spinup in your BIOS.

It basically turns your HDD's on in order; so instead of 12 HDD's starting all at the same time, 1 starts, then once it gets to it's RPM level, 2 starts up, so on and so forth.

It'll add a few seconds onto your boot times; but it puts less strain on your PSU.

Depending on your 1TB Drives, they'll use between 15 and 20w at start-up (pulling power from both the 5v & 12v rails.)

SSD's only pull about 5-7w at start up from the 5v & 3.3v rails.

Either way; you're only looking at 20w x 5 = 100w at startup from the HDD's; and during normal operations, more like 10-12w per drive.
So it's not a large concern; just a consideration.
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Efficiency ratings have no determination on the performance of a unit.

With the amount of HDD's you have you may want to look at enabling Staggered Spinup in your BIOS.

It basically turns your HDD's on in order; so instead of 12 HDD's starting all at the same time, 1 starts, then once it gets to it's RPM level, 2 starts up, so on and so forth.

It'll add a few seconds onto your boot times; but it puts less strain on your PSU.

Depending on your 1TB Drives, they'll use between 15 and 20w at start-up (pulling power from both the 5v & 12v rails.)

SSD's only pull about 5-7w at start up from the 5v & 3.3v rails.

Either way; you're only looking at 20w x 5 = 100w at startup from the HDD's; and during normal operations, more like 10-12w per drive.
So it's not a large concern; just a consideration.
yeah but when a unit have great ratings and work well because i have it and it is working well that is the reason why i mention that power suply but for me the 80+gold is a + one thing that is good too have but not to pay for it and the power suply is at 193$ so that a great price for a great unit .
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Efficiency ratings have no determination on the performance of a unit.

With the amount of HDD's you have you may want to look at enabling Staggered Spinup in your BIOS.

It basically turns your HDD's on in order; so instead of 12 HDD's starting all at the same time, 1 starts, then once it gets to it's RPM level, 2 starts up, so on and so forth.

It'll add a few seconds onto your boot times; but it puts less strain on your PSU.

Depending on your 1TB Drives, they'll use between 15 and 20w at start-up (pulling power from both the 5v & 12v rails.)

SSD's only pull about 5-7w at start up from the 5v & 3.3v rails.

Either way; you're only looking at 20w x 5 = 100w at startup from the HDD's; and during normal operations, more like 10-12w per drive.
So it's not a large concern; just a consideration.
O thank you very much, that is very insightful, I wish I could give you Rep but I think you have evolved past the need, I can't find the button LOL

p.s - Vielen Dank fuer deine gute und schnelle hilfe ^_^
    
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O thank you very much, that is very insightful, I wish I could give you Rep but I think you have evolved past the need, I can't find the button LOL

p.s - Vielen Dank fuer deine gute und schnelle hilfe ^_^
Ja Bitte!

And don't worry about finding the rep button, Staff Members (Moderators, Retired Staff, Managers, & Editors) all don't have REP+ buttons because we are on the staff. (We also don't have the rep counter and such.)
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Honestly, I'm at a loss. You could try to RMA it to see if you have success with a different unit.



PCP&C unit uses better caps on the secondary design, and it has some updated bits to it; most notably, better caps on the secondary (Ltec & Teapo vs NCC) and it's based on the -BR revision of that platform which uses a 3 layer PCB.

It's also not an over-rated unit which carries a longer warranty.
My bad, thought it had jap caps like the higher watt fatal1ty. That changes things. And are sure they are ltec, since it's sirfa they are prob trec.
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My bad, thought it had jap caps like the higher watt fatal1ty. That changes things. And are sure they are ltec, since it's sirfa they are prob trec.
Just checked and it's Trec not Ltec, I was goin off memory for those.

Primary cap is also an 85*C Teapo; PCP&C's is a 105*C NCC I do believe.
And the PCP&C is rated for 45*C continuous output, OCZ doesn't list a rating but it's 40*C for that platform.
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I had a nice chuckle as I was pushing my video cards and their OC's. 900 core 2100 mem and 1800 shader then poof PC shuts down during vantage. I got a message from XFX but I haven't read it. Someone is selling a Seasonic M12D 850w for $120 CAD should I pick that up or something that isn't outdated?
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This is what I was told by XFX

[ 1/19/2011 5:39:23 AM] Currently having issues running 2 470`s in SLI. I basically need to unplug half of my PC components just to get the both of them to boot up. Theoretically I should have enough power to run 2x 470`s on this PSU. At first it would only power one 470 with everything running and now I somehow managed for it to boot two. I`ve ran 3x GTX 260`s on this PSU with no issues, but now the 470`s are having problems. Could it have gone defective or is everyone who assured me the 750W PSU would be enough are wrong? There are even reviews with the 750 running 2x 470`s with no issues. What would be the process of setting up an RMA to further test the PSU? What I`m powering on - 1x Swiftech MCP-655 3x Ultra Kaze`s 3k RPM 2x 140mm Yate Loon High Speeds 1x CCFL 1x 5mm LED 2x 470`s 2x Seagate 750GB 1x 150GB Raptor 1x 80GB SSD i7 930 @ 4.2 with HT on


[BRIAN 1/19/2011 7:00:02 PM] Hi, it should be fine as long as you don`t go too crazy with extra components. The 470s are power hogs and probably would draw more power than three 260s. If it boots up with less components in there, then there may not be enough power to power everything in your system. Keep us posted. Thanks, Brian.


[ 1/19/2011 11:06:47 PM] I didn`t really think my components were that many, but in some fluke I ended up getting everything to boot up together fully powered. I was doing some stress testing to see if the PSU could handle it and during a vantage run the PC shut down. Previous to that during another run I was dropping HD`s I assume due to power constraints?


[MICHAELC_W 1/19/2011 11:44:16 PM] Hi Benny; thanks for the update and glad to hear if things were able to get working again, just keep an eye on things with any type of voltage/power monitor software if you have anything like that you prefer to use and let us know if you run into any further concerns. Thanks, Michael
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This is what I was told by XFX

[ 1/19/2011 5:39:23 AM] Currently having issues running 2 470`s in SLI. I basically need to unplug half of my PC components just to get the both of them to boot up. Theoretically I should have enough power to run 2x 470`s on this PSU. At first it would only power one 470 with everything running and now I somehow managed for it to boot two. I`ve ran 3x GTX 260`s on this PSU with no issues, but now the 470`s are having problems. Could it have gone defective or is everyone who assured me the 750W PSU would be enough are wrong? There are even reviews with the 750 running 2x 470`s with no issues. What would be the process of setting up an RMA to further test the PSU? What I`m powering on - 1x Swiftech MCP-655 3x Ultra Kaze`s 3k RPM 2x 140mm Yate Loon High Speeds 1x CCFL 1x 5mm LED 2x 470`s 2x Seagate 750GB 1x 150GB Raptor 1x 80GB SSD i7 930 @ 4.2 with HT on


[BRIAN 1/19/2011 7:00:02 PM] Hi, it should be fine as long as you don`t go too crazy with extra components. The 470s are power hogs and probably would draw more power than three 260s. If it boots up with less components in there, then there may not be enough power to power everything in your system. Keep us posted. Thanks, Brian.


[ 1/19/2011 11:06:47 PM] I didn`t really think my components were that many, but in some fluke I ended up getting everything to boot up together fully powered. I was doing some stress testing to see if the PSU could handle it and during a vantage run the PC shut down. Previous to that during another run I was dropping HD`s I assume due to power constraints?


[MICHAELC_W 1/19/2011 11:44:16 PM] Hi Benny; thanks for the update and glad to hear if things were able to get working again, just keep an eye on things with any type of voltage/power monitor software if you have anything like that you prefer to use and let us know if you run into any further concerns. Thanks, Michael
Wow, I laughed. He obviously did not read the whole message...
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Exactly.

So I responded with this -

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[ 1/19/2011 11:48:54 PM] Well they technically aren`t working since the PC shuts down under full load. So I guess I am left with having to buy a higher wattage PSU. Unless XFX has some sort of step up program where I could pay the difference on an 850 and send back my 750, but that`s most likely pushing my luck.
I'm aware XFX has no such program, but what do I have to lose by asking?
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