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I have a couple more ideas, but that's pretty much it. lol. I was just having a little fun ;D
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post #102 of 979
Instead of ERS Paper, would any of the following work just as good? It's just paper with metal fibers in it making a Faraday cage/shield. They are cheaper than the paper.... anyone try any of these?

www.mcmaster.com
6021T13 Grounding and Shielding Foam Sheet
3413A31 Metalized-Fabric EMI-Shielding Tape
7631A82 Multipurpose Aluminum Foil Tape
76555A724 Copper Foil Tape
9270K21 Copper Mesh EMI-Shielding Tape
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post #103 of 979
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Instead of ERS Paper, would any of the following work just as good? It's just paper with metal fibers in it making a Faraday cage/shield. They are cheaper than the paper.... anyone try any of these?

www.mcmaster.com
6021T13 Grounding and Shielding Foam Sheet
3413A31 Metalized-Fabric EMI-Shielding Tape
7631A82 Multipurpose Aluminum Foil Tape
76555A724 Copper Foil Tape
9270K21 Copper Mesh EMI-Shielding Tape
all may work to some degree but will pose more problems then the ERS paper. all are more conductive then ERS paper so they would have to be insulated, the tape would not make as clean of a finish either. the foam is thicker then the ERS paper so that is a factor as well.

In all all the solutions are more expensive then ERS paper.
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post #104 of 979
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all may work to some degree but will pose more problems then the ERS paper. all are more conductive then ERS paper so they would have to be insulated, the tape would not make as clean of a finish either. the foam is thicker then the ERS paper so that is a factor as well.

In all all the solutions are more expensive then ERS paper.
Doesn't really matter if they are more conductive since any conductivity is bad. I was thinking.... black acrylic + aluminum + black acrylic. Just mount that sandwich to the back of the card? Yes/No?
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post #105 of 979
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Doesn't really matter if they are more conductive since any conductivity is bad. I was thinking.... black acrylic + aluminum + black acrylic. Just mount that sandwich to the back of the card? Yes/No?
it would probably work, but I don't see why you just wouldn't use ERS paper. It has been shown to work better then other methods for audio, and it is cheaper.
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it would probably work, but I don't see why you just wouldn't use ERS paper. It has been shown to work better then other methods for audio, and it is cheaper.
I don't trust it really... why does it work better than a sheet of copper or aluminum? What's so special about? It's just paper with metal fibers embedded, right?

Besides, I have scrap metal sheets lying around so that free. Acrylic costs just $6 and should end up looking very nice.
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post #107 of 979
It's an audiophile thing I guess
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It's an audiophile thing I guess
I'm not saying ERS Paper is bad and I still might go that route... the question is why? What's the physics behind on how well it performs? Does it perform that much better than a grounded solid copper sheet? We both know there is a lot of marketing BS/exaggeration in audiophile marketing (i.e. MonsterCables). It is also hard to setup tests that are not in some way subjective.
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I'm not saying ERS Paper is bad and I still might go that route... the question is why? What's the physics behind on how well it performs? Does it perform that much better than a grounded solid copper sheet? We both know there is a lot of marketing BS/exaggeration in audiophile marketing (i.e. MonsterCables). It is also hard to setup tests that are not in some way subjective.
I agree... except for your comment about Monster. Monster is not an audiophile company and they should not be considered along with other 'good' companies. Monster is a consumer company.

That's the point I was trying to make earlier. one of your methods may block more interference... but audio is subjective and in the subjective tests ERS paper seems to come out on top frequently.
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It is because a little bit of the metal trees' resonance will always remain even after they make the metal paper out of them...
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