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but how do I hold the chip in place, hold the solder to it, and the iron at the same time? 3 hands? Sorry, that I dont have. XD
you hold the iron in one hand, tweezers in your other, and hook the solder inbetween two fingers on the hand holding the tweezers... piece of cake

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Question of importance...

Reading the guide I looked @ national for the name of the opamp, as well as the renamed one (its a little post at the bottom) Now national had them both, so i ordered them both...

LM4562 - http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM4562.html
LME4986 - http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LME49860.html

so i have 3 of the LM4562(s) and 5 of the LME4986(s)... now which one do I use on the card? for best sound and performance.
4562

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Retarded questions:

Where do I get black foam from and does it attach through self adhesive backing or do I tape it on somehow (and if so, how)?

Do I get the ERS paper w/ adhesive backing?

And is this the specific Blackgate capacitator?
BLKGATE- 60087 Std 2200 16v 18 x 36 $7.95
I only need one of these for a standard mod on an XtremeGamer Fatal1ty?
is that card compatable?
foam from craft store, spray adhesive from craft store
ers is conductive
get 1000uf cap

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These guys say they did the oamps in like 5 minutes. I can't do it in 3 hours now. Not even 1!
it takes me longer to remove the op-amp and clean the pads than it does to solder one on.

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I had to solder some surface mounts in tech school and the easiest way was to melt the solder on the contacts of the board. Then put the chip down on top of the solder and push each pin down with the soldering iron. That was the easiest way for me at least.
not the cleanest method...

put the op-amp down, solder one corner pin, then opposite corner then all the rest.
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you hold the iron in one hand, tweezers in your other, and hook the solder inbetween two fingers on the hand holding the tweezers... piece of cake


4562



is that card compatable?
foam from craft store, spray adhesive from craft store
ers is conductive
get 1000uf cap



it takes me longer to remove the op-amp and clean the pads than it does to solder one on.



not the cleanest method...

put the op-amp down, solder one corner pin, then opposite corner then all the rest.
problem is - I cant even solder a single pin even with the whole "wrap the solder around your finger" which actually made it alot easier to actually make contact with the solder. Problem is - its the most innacurate method so far. I splattered solder almost completely across the other emply oamp spaces but lucky I managed to pick it up before it became completely solid.

I can't even frikken get a pin down - its so frustrating. Been going at it for 4 hours straight.
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Can't you just have solder on all of the pins and then use the copper strip thingy (forgot what it's called) to suck out the extra solder. Of course, solder will stay on metal contacts.
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Can't you just have solder on all of the pins and then use the copper strip thingy (forgot what it's called) to suck out the extra solder. Of course, solder will stay on metal contacts.
I suppose you could, but really that is wayyyy more trouble than it is worth.

The soldering job is pretty simple.
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Can't you just have solder on all of the pins and then use the copper strip thingy (forgot what it's called) to suck out the extra solder. Of course, solder will stay on metal contacts.
you could... but that would be the most difficult of the methods presented. plus, if you put solder down on the pads then put the op-amp down unless you can heat up all the pads at once the legs won't be sitting tight next to the pads so there won't be as good of contact.
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I still havent got one on

I havent had it happen, in fact solder hasn't even touched any of the new amps so far, but if I were to get some solder on both pins would that be bad?
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I still havent got one on

I havent had it happen, in fact solder hasn't even touched any of the new amps so far, but if I were to get some solder on both pins would that be bad?
Not as long as no power reaches the OP amp. It would have to be cleaned up (i/e, contact broken) before you put it back in your computer.
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you could... but that would be the most difficult of the methods presented. plus, if you put solder down on the pads then put the op-amp down unless you can heat up all the pads at once the legs won't be sitting tight next to the pads so there won't be as good of contact.
The method is the traditional way to mount surface-mount chip. First have chip down in the right place, apply flux and heat it up a little bit. Then have solder on solder iron tip, drag it over the legs. And then because the legs are so close together, it's highly possible to have overhung solder on adjacent legs, therefore use the copper wire to suck it out. I don't know how could that get any easier.
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Filling out another order at Jameco right now, I might as well order some parts...

They don't have the 4562 or the LME4986. If I buy one from somewhere else, which is better?

Soloz, you said to get a 1000uf cap a couple of posts up, should I just pick any 16v 1000uf cap from Jameco?
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Filling out another order at Jameco right now, I might as well order some parts...

They don't have the 4562 or the LME4986. If I buy one from somewhere else, which is better?

Soloz, you said to get a 1000uf cap a couple of posts up, should I just pick any 16v 1000uf cap from Jameco?
i'm not familar with jameco. get either a panasonic fm or blackgate standard series cap.

I have a few op-amps left
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