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post #861 of 979
yeah, put the original chip back in place. I don't have a card on hand to see what it is.

don't worry about anything else until you put the chip back and see if your card still works.


This is why I highly recommend getting an Auzen Prelude.
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Dear Soloz2,

It is an honour for me your answer and do you think I should replace the capacitors just around the mistakenly replaced IC?

If YES what Volt and uF and what PANASONIC series I should use...
a, b, c (three different size)

Please IF YOU think it is useful and you answer later when you will have an Extreme music card around you I will be patient and will wait for your answer!

Thanks in advance!
post #863 of 979
Hey everybody.

Today my sound setup includes: Auzen X-Fi Prelude, Z-5500 and Schure SE530.

I want to change the op-amp on Prelude for Texas Instrument’s OPA 627SM's (only for the front channel, since I am weak at soldering). I found them available on ebay and with shipment they will cost ~$60. The problem is - I have no idea where can I get Auzen adaptor for them.

I've found a reference to BrownDog, however - this adaptor requires additional modding (if can be used at all with 627SM).

Any help is greatly appriciated.

p.s. just ordered some speaker wire (2.5mm in diameter) for z-5500 as well as cables to change the included one for 6ch direct connection. I dont expect much change in sound quality, I guess it is more matter of modding/changing something in the setup + of course the persue of even better sound and maxing out Z-5500 performance. I believe however that SE530 will shine with opamp upgrade. Thanks again, audiophile fellows.
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post #864 of 979
you can order the op-amps on adapters direct from auzentech
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post #865 of 979
Thanks for reply, Soloz2.

My main concern is that there is no option to test the opamp before buying, thus figuring out if the cost is justified for your particular needs or not. If an option of a full refound if unsatisfied would exist - I would not hesitate to try them out.

To get the opamp with shipment would cost me $273. It is more then the price of the card itself (~$180) and is almost as much as Z-5500. In my opinion paying 150% of the price of the product (in this case X-Fi prelude) for the slight(?) upgrade (only front channels) in any case would make you want to test this upgrade first.

The thing with me is that I just love music and in particular - quality source. That is, as many 'addicts' I could spend some money just thinking that it should be a good decision (or at least this would satisfy my cravings). In this case - it is ~100$, but not $273.

I’ve just ordered SM Pro Audio M-Patch 2 and M-Audio BX8A Deluxe speakers to try how they will work together in my setup. The place offers 30days money back guarantee. If you are not satisfied with the purchase – you get full refund and don’t even have to pay for the shipment back. That’s what I call service. Hope Auzentech would move in such direction at least to some degree.

Soloz2, any other options you could suggest?


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PM me and I can buy an op-amp and ship to you, cover my costs and save some $$$

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post #867 of 979
I thought the X-FI Fatal1ty Pro had the same components as the xtrememusic, can anyone clarify this?
post #868 of 979
Hi all,

I just modded my Xtrememusic with LM4562 on the Front Channels and the rest have LME49720MA, but I've ran into a problem. The Rear Left speaker's volume is drastically too low, however when i use headphones and turn the volume on the creative volpanel to 100% i can hear the test noise, but it's still too low to hear. All other channels play fine.

I'm not 100% sure what's causing this, but a faulty opamp comes to mind (I've triple checked my solder joints) but I can't find the picture on this thread or the one on head-fi that tells me which opamp corresponds to the rear channels.

Can someone tell me which opamp is for the rear channels... or if anyone knows what's causing my rear-left channel to have a really volume suggest some answers please.

Thanks in advance!
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Dear Soloz2,

I would like to finish my X-fi Extreme Music and because I don't have anybody else in this field to trust, I beg you to answer my last 4 questions and I won't bother you again with my childish questions.

1., What my friend replaced badly that IC is ST Microelectronics L79L05A negative fixed voltage regulator. On Farnell's site I found the original ST L79L05ACD smd IC but ST said they don't recommend for new design and farnell offers as an alternative On Semiconductor's MC79L05ACDG. The specs are exactly the same, which one do you suggest?

2., Some capacitors around the front channel and down at the voltage regulator has burned a little bit. I wrote down all the capacitors numbers these are:

4,7uF 16V
10uf 16V
22uF 16V
100uF 16V
22uf 25V

There are no quality 4,7uF 16V capacitors just
a., 4,7uF 25V
b., 10uF 16V
c., noname 4,7uF 16V capacitors
Which one do you suggest?

3., I found, Panasonic said "audio grade" capacitors series AM, AD, AK at this little values 10uF, 22 uF. Specs are nearly the same. Which one do you offer?

4., And in the beginning of this forum they offer C46 +5vdc supply to opamps: Panasonic FM or FC, 330uf @ 16 or 25vdc (original is 100uF 16V)
and C72 -5vdc supply to opamps: Panasonic FM or FC, 68uf @ 16 or 25vdc (original is 22uF 16V)
Is it useful or what would you offer instead?

Please let me finish this card and help me with your knowledge!

Thanks in advance!
post #870 of 979
from the sounds of it your friend fubared your card and I don't think I'd waste replacing parts on the creative card because it has a poor pcb that is hard to work with and there is no guarantee that you will be able to salvage it. I would say cut your losses and use the money you would spend for new parts on a new card. Make your friend chip in.

if you feel you have to continue down this path then get the same part as was originally on the card and get the best caps you can find that will still fit on the card. I used some nichicon caps I believe fk series.

This is why I have said from the beginning if you do not know what you are doing then do not try this mod. I do not recommend anyone do this mod anyway. Here are my reasons:

1. the auzentech prelude sounds just as good if not better than a modded xtrememusic
2. the auzentech prelude has a better pcb layout and uses higher quality parts.
3. the prelude will have a warranty and socketed op-amps
4. the prelude has better drivers and is a more capable card
5. by the time you purchase an x-fi, purchase the parts and pay a buddy a few $$ to mod the card you've spent just as much or more than a prelude would have cost you.

Bottom line. ever since the prelude came out I have not modded a single x-fi. This mod has been deserted by most of the original proponents.

Also, do to my above reasons I will not offer any more technical support or advise for those who want to do this mod or those who screw it up.
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