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as the title states im completely new to this .. ive been searching for the best air heatsink for my AMD (939) for a while and just when I thought I had everything figured out .. they don't make it for my model .. I really don't want all the hassle of water cooling because my computer does move from time to time but I hate heat. So I was wondering what would be the best "Starter kit" for me to get up around 3.0Ghz I was looking at theses two but as I stated im just starting the search so any help or suggestions would be great ( P.S im a REP+ Slut .. im always giving them out =])
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835702002
http://www.xoxide.com/ultra-chilltech-cpu-cooler.html

I also already have a spare PSU but I think it a piece of crap it came with my case .. i'll try to take it apart and take some shots and put them up for you guys
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You don't need a spare PSU for those two units... they only use a 50w TEC which means the TEC only does like 30w of work. Good air like the TT is able to beat these units for 1/3 the price. Good water also beats this things.
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You don't need a spare PSU for those two units... they only use a 50w TEC which means the TEC only does like 30w of work. Good air like the TT is able to beat these units for 1/3 the price. Good water also beats this things.
recommendations ??

EDIT: I'm looking to skip water all together so where would I need to start on a good and possibly upgradeable TEC system?
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recommendations ??

EDIT: I'm looking to skip water all together so where would I need to start on a good and possibly upgradeable TEC system?
You won't find it... For larger TEC's, you need something that can handle 200-600w of heat.
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You won't find it... For larger TEC's, you need something that can handle 200-600w of heat.
So where do I start .. I have a single rail 450 watt PSU but I think the 12v amperage is too low. As I said I don't know much more about what I need .. if I need a bigger better PSU then thats cool, but what else?
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So where do I start .. I have a single rail 450 watt PSU but I think the 12v amperage is too low. As I said I don't know much more about what I need .. if I need a bigger better PSU then thats cool, but what else?
TECs are extremely performance sensitive.... a small change in the load or environment can drastically change its performance. For example, (this is really simplified) a TEC is able to pump 80w... and your CPU is putting out 70w. Then your temps would be nice. But once your CPU hits 81w, your TEC will act as an insulator and begin to increase CPU temp. As CPU temp increase, the TEC performance drops.... feed back loop until the TEC burns out and/or you melt your HS and CPU.

What you need is a method of effectively cooling a TEC. The only effective way of doing this is with water.
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