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im guessing XTU likes memory overclock more so then CPU? or im doing something wrong?

i started over from scratch and used thermal grizzly LM on the die. and reapplied MX4 on the IHS. got up to 49/49/100 @ 1.5v max temp 92c(throttled for a split second at the end of one of the runs), my XTU score was only 1288 on the best run, most other runs were 1268-1277ish. currently just have stock ram settings 2133 c15 4gbx2.

am i doing somehting wrong CPU-wise or should i start playing with memory now?

edit:

answered this myself, set my CPU clock back to default(auto everything) and started playing with memory clock.

so far got my 2400Mhz 15-15-15-35-2T @ 1.2v kit running 3200Mhz 18-18-18-43-2T @ 1.35v and im gettting 1329marks. just finding the highest frequency for now then going to see how tight i can make it.
Edited by johnd0e - 6/12/16 at 12:58pm
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im guessing XTU likes memory overclock more so then CPU? or im doing something wrong?

i started over from scratch and used thermal grizzly LM on the die. and reapplied MX4 on the IHS. got up to 49/49/100 @ 1.5v max temp 92c(throttled for a split second at the end of one of the runs), my XTU score was only 1288 on the best run, most other runs were 1268-1277ish. currently just have stock ram settings 2133 c15 4gbx2.

am i doing somehting wrong CPU-wise or should i start playing with memory now?

edit:

answered this myself, set my CPU clock back to default(auto everything) and started playing with memory clock.

so far got my 2400Mhz 15-15-15-35-2T @ 1.2v kit running 3200Mhz 18-18-18-43-2T @ 1.35v and im gettting 1329marks. just finding the highest frequency for now then going to see how tight i can make it.

Something was definatly wrong with those 49/49 @ 1.5v runs. It looks like the OC didn't show up in Windows but vcore did. Good idea to open cpuz and Asrock formula drive to confirm. Sometimes you just need to move multi slider and hit apply in asrock FD. Here is only 49/49 pic I could find and it's with 2x4gb E die. B die is much better though, as seen in second pic



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Something was definatly wrong with those 49/49 @ 1.5v runs. It looks like the OC didn't show up in Windows but vcore did. Good idea to open cpuz and Asrock formula drive to confirm. Sometimes you just need to move multi slider and hit apply in asrock FD. Here is only 49/49 pic I could find and it's with 2x4gb E die. B die is much better though, as seen in second pic
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its definetly running at 49/49/100 in OS

heres a run i just did becuase you made me second guess myself lol.



that is 49/49/100 @ 1.5v & memory running at default(auto) bios setting of 2133Mhz 15-15-15-35-2T higher then my other 4.9 runs i did, but this was on a fresh boot after being turned off for an hour.

i did a run also at 48/48/100 @ 1.5v with memory running 3466 16-17-17-42-1T @ 1.37v and only got 1490 marks. headscratch.gif maybe my OS is shot already.
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its definetly running at 49/49/100 in OS

heres a run i just did becuase you made me second guess myself lol.



that is 49/49/100 @ 1.5v & memory running at default(auto) bios setting of 2133Mhz 15-15-15-35-2T higher then my other 4.9 runs i did, but this was on a fresh boot after being turned off for an hour.

i did a run also at 48/48/100 @ 1.5v with memory running 3466 16-17-17-42-1T @ 1.37v and only got 1490 marks. headscratch.gif maybe my OS is shot already.

Nah, you need more mem power.
Good thing to do is, instead of pushing high CPU freq/volts on ambient & possibly degrading the chip, leave it @ 45/45 & try to increase your efficiency there by mem tweaking.
A lot of people do this.

For perspective, really good efficiency with E-die at 45/45, gets around 1609 points. And its around 1625 points with B-die.

Have fun tweaking. thumb.gif

Edit:- Also, getting the right OS would help. XTU with Skylake likes Win 10 32bit or Win 8.1 32bit.
Edited by rt123 - 6/12/16 at 5:36pm
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Nah, you need more mem power.
Good thing to do is, instead of pushing high CPU freq/volts on ambient & possibly degrading the chip, leave it @ 45/45 & try to increase your efficiency there by mem tweaking.
A lot of people do this.

For perspective, really good efficiency with E-die at 45/45, gets around 1609 points. And its around 1625 points with B-die.

Have fun tweaking. thumb.gif

Edit:- Also, getting the right OS would help. XTU with Skylake likes Win 10 32bit or Win 8.1 32bit.

sadly dont think these sticks have that much left in them. im running them at 3501Mhz now.

going to try and tighten them down but dont think theres much left in them at this point, had to run them at 1.4v to get 3501 18-18-18-43-2T

heres the run i did at 47/47/101.00 and 3501Mhz 18-18-18-43-2T



guess ill order up another SSD to toss win10 on.
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sadly dont think these sticks have that much left in them. im running them at 3501Mhz now.

going to try and tighten them down but dont think theres much left in them at this point, had to run them at 1.4v to get 3501 18-18-18-43-2T

heres the run i did at 47/47/101.00 and 3501Mhz 18-18-18-43-2T



guess ill order up another SSD to toss win10 on.

1.4V, lol. lachen.gif

How much volts do you think the guys doing 3800C11 on E-die are pushing..? I'll give you a hint, 1.9V+. wink.gif
Put a fan on that RAM & crank it up. devil.gif

Also, it would be nice to know, what exact sticks you have.
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1.4V, lol. lachen.gif

How much volts do you think the guys doing 3800C11 on E-die are pushing..? I'll give you a hint, 1.9V+. wink.gif
Put a fan on that RAM & crank it up. devil.gif

Also, it would be nice to know, what exact sticks you have.


yea, gtijason already called me out on the volts lol. first time with memory overclocking haha, had no idea people were going that high. 140mm fan is already blowing on the sticks and theyre running 1.65v now. thumb.gif


he also gave me the scoop on the sticks im working with,
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Quote:
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as for the kit im using, its 2 sticks out of this 4 stick kit,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231791

and if im looking at the right number its 144334002822654


3400 is Hynix and 1443 is 43rd week of 2014, so that probably means you have MFR. There are some presets in bios and the guide I sent will help. The pic of timings is samsung though so use loosely

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?283666-Figuring-out-G-Skill-s-SNs
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yea, gtijason already called me out on the volts lol. first time with memory overclocking haha, had no idea people were going that high. 140mm fan is already blowing on the sticks and theyre running 1.65v now. thumb.gif


he also gave me the scoop on the sticks im working with,

Damn that Jason guy, stealing my thunder. sozo.gif

Anyways, at this point, MFR is ancient for DDR4.
I suggest you pick up something newer. Like any Gskill 2x4GB kit above 3200Mhz for E-die. Or 2x8GB Gskill kits above 3000Mhz for B-die.

B-die is the best, but has a lot of quirks (need to maxmem limit the OS at 2GB available RAM, etc). E-die on the other hand, has less hassles & delivers pretty good performance, just not top of the line.
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Damn that Jason guy, stealing my thunder. sozo.gif

Must be a real DORK, get a life Gti !
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Damn that Jason guy, stealing my thunder. sozo.gif

Anyways, at this point, MFR is ancient for DDR4.
I suggest you pick up something newer. Like any Gskill 2x4GB kit above 3200Mhz for E-die. Or 2x8GB Gskill kits above 3000Mhz for B-die.

B-die is the best, but has a lot of quirks (need to maxmem limit the OS at 2GB available RAM, etc). E-die on the other hand, has less hassles & delivers pretty good performance, just not top of the line.


Yea ill have to buy a nice kit, i got this stuff for free with some other parts i bought in the market place so cant complain at all.


But ill buy some better stuff today maybe, i need to order a new ssd and wireless adapter anyways.



Might sound crazy, but i think memory overclocking (even though i have no idea what im doing yet) is the most fun ive had so far, so many things you need to adjust to dial it in. Feels satisfying lol.
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windows 10 Pro 64-bit windows 8.1 32-bit EVGA 1300 G2 EVBOT 
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Klein Tools MM600 Klein Tools MM600 Gigabyte x99 SOC Champion  Asus Maximus Formula (Specail Edition) 
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Asrock Extreme 6+ A88X XFX Pro series 1050W  
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 5820k Gigabyte x99 SOC-Champion GTX 970 SSC HyperX Savage DDR4 2400 4x8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M.2 Samsung 850 evo 500GB  WD Black 2TB Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 
OSPowerCase
Windows 10 pro 64bit EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2 Phanteks Enthoo evolv ATX 
CPUCPUCPUCPU
i7 6700k i3 6320 5960x Q6600 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
A6-5400k Asrock z170M OCF XFX 8600GTS Radeon HD5850 
GraphicsGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
PNY 9500GT EVGA GTX970 SSC ACX2+ EVGA GTX980TI Classified EVGA GTX980TI Classified 
RAMRAMRAMRAM
4x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws 4 2400 DDR4 15-15-15-35-2... 2x8GB G.skill Ripkaws V 3200 DDR4 16-18-18-38-2... 2x4GB G.Skill Trident Z 4000 DDR4 19-21-21-41-2... 2x8GB G.skill Trident Z DDR4 3200 14-14-14-34-2... 
RAMRAMRAMHard Drive
2x2GB G.skill DDR2 1066 2x2GB G.skill Pi DDR2 1100 2x4GB Klevv Urbane DDR3 2800  Kingston 300v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Kingston 300v OCZ ARC100 Silicon power flashdrive  Silicon power flashdrive 
CoolingCoolingOSOS
EK Predator 360 AIO EK Predator 240 AIO windows 7 Pro 64-bit SP1 windows 10 32-bit 
OSOSPowerOther
windows 10 Pro 64-bit windows 8.1 32-bit EVGA 1300 G2 EVBOT 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Klein Tools MM600 Klein Tools MM600 Gigabyte x99 SOC Champion  Asus Maximus Formula (Specail Edition) 
OtherOther
Asrock Extreme 6+ A88X XFX Pro series 1050W  
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