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I'm more concerned with video encoding (do that a lot) rather than gaming--I'm more than satisfied with the gaming performance of my sig rig (though encoding takes awhile).
Yeah I guess so.. But going back to the L2 Cache topic.. The Celeron has better performing parts then the Laptop does so I layed it straight on L2 Cache. I was thinking the E6320 would be loads better but true not that MUCH of an difference. You will begin to notice it later on when games become more demanding. You ask someone in game what type of processor do you have? They reply an Core 2 Duo E6320! Then you say dang I wish I would have gotten that.. My L2 Cache is really holding me back in this game..
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Oh I see. Well I hope you oc the e6300 to at least 3ghz!
Yeah, I think that should be realistically doable on the DS3 board (from what people say).
    
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Yeah I guess so.. But going back to the L2 Cache topic.. The Celeron has better performing parts then the Laptop does so I layed it straight on L2 Cache. I was thinking the E6320 would be loads better but true not that MUCH of an difference. You will begin to notice it later on when games become more demanding. You ask someone in game what type of processor do you have? They reply an Core 2 Duo E6320! Then you say dang I wish I would have gotten that.. My L2 Cache is really holding me back in this game..
LOL--yeah, that's the only thing that is keeping me from hitting the "buy" button right now--a new gen of games will be coming out (regardless of whether I have a DX10 card or not), that might rely more heavily on L2 cache. But to be honest, I've been on my sig rig for a couple years now, and I'm pretty certain that other than a gfx card upgrade later on for this new build, it should be fine. I mean, AM2 rigs with 512k cache play pretty much any game out right now--4 times that should be sufficient for the future.
    
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there's no reason to go with the X3600 right now, because even if you get the brisbane, you'd have to get a good board to OC it. whereas with the C2D, you can get an E4300 for only 40$ more, get some ECS mobo or one of the ASUS VM (value models) for arond 50$ and with the 9X multi, you can still max out the cpu without requiring too much from the board.

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Yes, the AM2 will be cheaper, but the C2D rig will have lots more bang-for-buck.

I'm wanting to go Intel because of the media encoding speeds--at least twice of what the AM2 will be able to do, even if I don't OC the 6300 all that much.

EDIT--I understand what you are saying regarding your C2D budget and wanting to go Brisbane--but I pretty much have all the goodies I need for the moment, so all I'd need to spend $ on are the components to get a new C2D rig up and running.
You need to get a E6320. It's probably about 4 dollars more, maybe it's even cheaper. The E6420 isn't much more either and is a much better OC'r.

At this time it's dumb not to get an e6320 or E6420 instead of the E6300 and E6400. The cache makes everything smoother.
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You need to get a E6320. It\\'s probably about 4 dollars more, maybe it\\'s even cheaper. The E6420 isn\\'t much more either and is a much better OC\\'r.

At this time it\\'s dumb not to get an e6320 or E6420 instead of the E6300 and E6400. The cache makes everything smoother.
Like we said before.. he is scared of getting one from the batch of poor OCers.
    
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Like we said before.. he is scared of getting one from the batch of poor OCers.
Yes, you said it. Besides, I would love for some evidence that 4mb is any sort of huge benefit over 2mb in general use when I'm coming from 1mb per core and have no gripes/problems other than video conversion speeds of my current rig. I'd rather have a higher-clocked 2mb CPU than a lower clocked 4mb CPU--one of the reasonings behind so many people building 3600+ Brisbane rigs recently.
    
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Yes, you said it. Besides, I would love for some evidence that 4mb is any sort of huge benefit over 2mb in general use when I'm coming from 1mb per core and have no gripes/problems other than video conversion speeds of my current rig. I'd rather have a higher-clocked 2mb CPU than a lower clocked 4mb CPU--one of the reasonings behind so many people building 3600+ Brisbane rigs recently.
The reason peopl are building X2 3600+ Brisbane builds is because they are at an all time low. I remember when I first saw them, they were $90 now they are $60! Yes the X2 3600+ Brisbane is good but I mean I personally think anything over an 8600GTS would be major bottleneck for it. Right now I believe the E6320 is more then enough for this generation and will very reasonably last you until the peak of DirectX 10 (Example: An Pentium D lasting from an 6800Ultra till an 7950GT).

You may not see the benifit of more L2 Chache now but you will see it soon. Think of it this way. Imagine starving of thirst. You have 2MB L2 Cache which gives you about 2 Gallons every 24 hours (Remember just an example). Then having 4MB L2 Cache which gives you 4 Gallons every 24 hours. I'm sure that you would love to have the 4MB around for you to use when you most need it. You may not think of it now but you will in the future.

*cough* Hit the buy button for an E6320, 2GB Memory, and an 8800GTS!! *cough*
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*cough* Hit the buy button for an E6320, 2GB Memory, and an 8800GTS!! *cough*
LOL.

I'm sure when it becomes necessary to have 4+mb L2 cache, I'll be needing to upgrade anyway because I think that is going to be pretty far off--but would it be unreasonable for a E6300 rig to be useful for the next 1-2 years or so? The conroe cores are not even 1 year old.

I was never really concerned about buying the newest/fastest CPU anyway--just an upgrade to what I currently have at a relatively low price. With that being the case, I'd rather stick with what's been proven, which will be plenty for at least a year or two.
    
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Why did you add about $40 to the case in your AMD build? You could save > $100 going AMd if done correctly.

But for the minimal difference in those choices, Conroe FTW

For < $450 you couldl get:

OEM 3600 Brisbnane $59
G.Skill NQ 2 gig $89
Biostar TForce 550 $79
320 gig 7200.10 barracuda perp $79
XClio 500 watt goodpower $49
Freezer 64 pro cpu cooler $29
Rosewill case $20
20x DVDRW SATA $33

Total Approx: $437

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