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Why not the E6320 while you are at it?
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I personally chose the E6320 for it's 4MB cache...I even think it was the same price.

I think MOST E4300's on the market now will have thermal grease between the chip and IHS and will most likely be the same temperature issue for you....but you MIGHT luck out if you get an older one that is soldered- but, I doubt it

One more point- I have fast RAM that should still allow me to get a good OC with the faster 266FSB, so going to the E6xxx series wasn't a big deal for me...you should consider that fact.
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I think MOST E4300's on the market now will have thermal grease between the chip and IHS and will most likely be the same temperature issue for you....but you MIGHT luck out if you get an older one that is soldered.

i have yet to see ANY 4300 not using thermal paste.Didn't think they ever were soldered....and for that matter, if i remember right, alot of 6300's are done the same way, with thermal paste...

my point is that many 4300's and many other cpus use thermal paste between the core and IHS...this isn't a problem really...it should work just fine...but in the case of the 4300's, i would say the IHS is curved..i have seen a ton of 4300's with curved IHS's...never seen one that had temp issues because of the thermal paste between the core and IHS was poor....
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post #14 of 52
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thanks for the tip guys

I went ahead and RMA'ed the 4300 for a replacement.

I'll try it, and if I don't get better results, i'll go for the 6320. Hate shipping costs, tho
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MuNcHeR23 is right. I checked with razor and my e4300 was slightly concave when I installed.
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my point is that many 4300's and many other cpus use thermal paste between the core and IHS...this isn't a problem really...it should work just fine...but in the case of the 4300's, i would say the IHS is curved..i have seen a ton of 4300's with curved IHS's...never seen one that had temp issues because of the thermal paste between the core and IHS was poor....
It's something about the paste IMO. My 4300 was running really hot too, even at stock speed and volts. I lapped it and my heatsink, like I always do anyway, and it barely helped with temps at all. I was pretty surpised it didn't make much difference, cause I always get a good temp drop after lapping. Look here http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...ng-off-10.html , look at post #93.

The first pic is after lapping my 4300 and heatsink. Maybe you didn't catch that, cause you were in on that thread too muncher . Notice low volts, crappy temps. Second pic is after removing the IHS and temps went way down. I think something about the grease they use blows. When I took off the IHS, it even looked like the core was making good contact and enough grease too.
    
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Maybe Intel did that on purpose to limit the overclock on the budget chips.
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Maybe Intel did that on purpose to limit the overclock on the budget chips.
Dude, I was totally thinking that . I was kinda wondering, do you think they put it on the 800 bus strap and used mediocre grease on it, to "sabotage" the chip's overclocking performance? Both limit it's performance, I swear they did it on purpose .

I haven't been able to get the 1066 pin mod to work on mine though, it just won't work with this board. Apparently there's alot of boards it won't work on.

But after removing the IHS and getting better temps, I could then take the chip higher. Before removal I could get around 3.15ghz, since I couldn't go above stock volts due to rediculous temps. Now, I can get over 3.3ghz, but I still haven't played with it much. I may be able to go higher. But so far, I've Orthos'd it for over 20hrs at 3.33ghz . I think the tighter 800 bus strap may keep me from going much higher though, we'll see.

I think also, if I had a mobo that works with the pin mod, I could take it higher more easily. If you get rid of the bad temps, and make the chip run on the 1066 bus, IMO this chip would clock just as good as all the CD2's do on average.
    
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Maybe Intel did that on purpose to limit the overclock on the budget chips.
could be....

or what a better to have for sales than a "sleeper" cpu....the 4300 has gotten a ton of attention b/c of its ability to keep up with and even surpass 6300's and 6400's....why limit it too much in what it can do..

maybe they curved these 4300's on purpose b/c they didn't use solder..to ensure contact..

IMO i think it would have more to do with $$ than anything else...might just be cheaper to use the thermal paste than solder..

im off work tomorrow, so im rambling a bit...you know how that K.B. can hit ya..
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Nah, think about it. The enthusiast buys the budget chip although he could have purchased the really expensive chip, only to find out that it has high temps. After pulling the usual round of tests and quirks to fix it up, he realizes that he's voided his warranty to hell and just buys a new one to fix temps.

It's not like the only other market for these chips (OEM system builders and budget buyers) are ever going to overclock, so they wouldn't be shafted by the poor (and as I think) intentional design.

I would do it if I was Intel.
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