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post #21 of 52
You do have to ask yourself why Intel would invest in possibly 100,000's of dollars of equipment to paste the IHS's on rather than paying the extra what?1$ per chip to solder it on? It might even be more expensive (albeit slightly) to paste if they don't buy the paste in the same bulk as they do the solder.
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post #22 of 52
cooling the cpu is essential to oc-ing.
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post #23 of 52
I'm pretty much on board with the conspiracy theorists:
I think the thermal grease solution is cheaper (including the re-tooling) for the quantity they are producing, but not as thermally efficient. So, it's a cheaper solution that is PERFECT for a cheap E4xxx chip that is slow (stock). Intel MUST realize they have lots of thermal margin (because look at all the overclockers!), so for them to save some money at the expense of thermal margin (which only overclockers would need, anyway) is smart business sense in my book. Additionally, the same type of argument works for the IHS. If their quality control has 3 buckets (flat, not-so-flat, and trash), then why not use the not-so-flat IHS on the cheap, slow chips that don't need it????
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post #24 of 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by insaneoctane View Post
If their quality control has 3 buckets (flat, not-so-flat, and trash)


lmao...

future generations will know this as the "Insaneoctane Bucket Theory"

and the rest of what you said sounds like a more reasonable route to me......
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post #25 of 52
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here is a little update

Got a new 4300... Still runs hot.. I have it Oc'ed to 2.7 ghz right now(fsb 300 X9) Idling at about 50, and with games load can peak at 62 or so....

The weird thing is... the heatsink doesn't even feel hot, even right at the base near the processor... It is a little warm, but not very hot at all... I'd expect it to be more.. Or is this the mark of a good heatsink(spreads the heat out?) I did away with those crappy pushpins and literally bolted the heatsink to the mobo....

I tried my best to see if the scythe or the chip were not flat... they seem pretty flat to me... If I lap the scythe, will that make the surface more flat/fit my problem? Or is it just this IHS on the chip that makes these temps high?

Finally, say I just want to be happy with my 2.7GHZ clock, and leave it.. Are these temps gonna fry my proc anytime soon? All I want is for the proc to last for about 2 years

Thanks
post #26 of 52
remove the IHS if you can.
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post #27 of 52
I suggest lapping, even if it's just minor; e4300's have a crazy concaveness too them from what i've seen.
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post #28 of 52
What tool are you reading your temps with. The e4300 has the 100c tjunction witch makes coretemp and TAT read the temp wrong. Subtract about 15c from the reading for the correct reading. Or just use speedfan.

I thought my e4300 was crap when I got it only do do a little research and figure that out. My heatspreader is concave also for reference.
 
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post #29 of 52
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lol... i was using Tat-- with speed fan i'm getting temps like 30-32 idle, 52-53 full load, and this is overclocked to 2.6.. i guess things are ok then?
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MuNcHeR23 is right. I checked with razor and my e4300 was slightly concave when I installed.
Did you lap it?
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