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I'm guessing you probably know more than me about this but I sure to do see allot of E4300 conroe cpuz screenshots all over the place.
Oh I could very well be wrong... I read it somewhere.. We all know you can't always trust what you read.. But I do know for a fact that CPUZ can change it upon verification..
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Oh I could very well be wrong... I read it somewhere.. We all know you can't always trust what you read.. But I do know for a fact that CPUZ can change it upon verification..
Most of these screen shots i see are just of peoples desktops,
I never validated mine before but isn't that some kind of special screen.
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Most of these screen shots i see are just of peoples desktops,
I never validated mine before but isn't that some kind of special screen.

Yes it is special..

When you have a screenshot of someones desktop, that could be altered.. But with CPUZ, you let CPUZ read your system and assign an ID number and web link for you.. The web link is from CPUZ and assures legit readings.. See my link in my Sig. marked E4300 proof..
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Yes it is special..

When you have a screenshot of someones desktop, that could be altered.. But with CPUZ, you let CPUZ read your system and assign an ID number and web link for you.. The web link is from CPUZ and assures legit readings.. See my link in my Sig. marked E4300 proof..
I see these conroe e4300 cpuz desktop screen shots all over the place at tons of different forums, There no way all these people are altering there screenshots to say conroe?
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Do you mean after verifiying, cpu-z will always read conroe even on the desktop,
after restarts etc...

Or do you mean on the verification page it will read conroe,
but still reads allendale on the desktop


Cpu-Z E4300 desktop conroe Screenshots

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/t249613.html
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=504835&page=8
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1195428
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=568457
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?p=2319350

There diferent versions of cpu-z too,
V1.38
v1.40
v1.39
v1.40
v1.39

I'm only using V1.35 and it reads allendale.


Plus All these stores claim to be selling E4300 "conroe's"???????????????
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http://www.clubit.com/product_detail...emno=CA1938417
http://www.pcnextday.co.uk/products/...Code=1119-2811
http://www.vivid-computers.co.nz/pro...roductid=13169
http://www.directron.com/bx80557e4300.html
http://www.comx-computers.co.za/comp...products=10723
http://www.st-athersystems.com/hardw...z/prod_77.html
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...=CP2-DUO-E4300
http://www.shopbot.com.au/p-41399-1047215.html
http://www.cms-computers.co.uk/produ...p=INTEL&brand=

And that was only a quick check through maybe the first 3 pages of google.
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mine was running 32-34C idle...just flashed my bios to f12 (gigabyte ga p965 ds3 rev 1.3) and now running 42-44C idle :\\ ***.



Edit: I found that updating my bios to version f11 or f12 (from stock f10) was the culprit...
    
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mine was running 32-34C idle...just flashed my bios to f12 (gigabyte ga p965 ds3 rev 1.3) and now running 42-44C idle :\\ ***.



Edit: I found that updating my bios to version f11 or f12 (from stock f10) was the culprit...
I have found some issues like that as well.. I use the 965P-S3.. I hit 400fsb with bios F8 but bios F9 and F10 won't let me get above 385fsb.. So I settled for the F8 bios, the others really didn't have anything I needed anyway..

Thanks for posting your issue, maybe others can see if that happens to them as well..


RANDOMGUY--

I have done a lot of research into the Conroe/Allendale thing.. I notice that when the E4300 was announced and first released, everyone called them a Conroe.. But then Allendale came up.. I read that Allendales were to have less L2 cache and have a slightly different transistor layout.... So I got to thinking 'Didn't Conroes have 4mb of L2 and some lower end models have 2mb of that disabled?' Then I found this

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the E4300 is the allendale core, its a native 2mb l2 cache instead of running with 2mb disabled
I think I understand this.. Higher end Conroes have 4mb L2 cache, lower end Conroes have 2mb of that disabled, whereas the allendale just has 2mb of L2 and nothing to disable.. So maybe very early on or in some "vendor test" models they used Conroes with 2mb of the L2 disabled.. But I think now, all E4300's, and probably all E4300's at this website, are Allendales.. I doubt any of us have actually seen a Conroe 4300..
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post #48 of 52
If there are some E4300 conroes out there it might help explain the temperature difference between some of these E4300. I dont know.
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post #49 of 52
Make sure you don't get any air bubbles in the TIM. Make sure you have good air flow. Don't always trust software readings.
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Ok so I lapped my e4300 to the best of my ability and I am getting 37 and 35(coretemp) degrees celcius stock with a zalman 9500 heatsink I am thinking of buying an e8400 to see if I will get bad temps with that as well. If I do then that means that either my heatsink if f*cked up or something else. Now do most vendors have refunds for CPUs of once you open it, its yours? Thanks.
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