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I was just about to dump money into my new build on pay day next week, was gonna go with something along the lines of this:

e6300
2 GB DDR2
8600 GT
and fill in the blanks for mobo, PSU, HDD, etc.

But, I was thinking about maybe saving this rig (the one in my sig) for a bit until more games utilize the dual cores better, as I NEVER multi-task, it's either FireFox, or games. I was thinking something along the lines of this:

$150 CDN - AMD Turion 64 ML-37 2.0GHz 1MB L2
$400 CDN - EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit
$100 CDN - replace my 512MB stick DDR400 to a 1GB for 2GB's total (2 x 1024MB)

so it would be quite a bit cheaper than a new build, allowing for an 8800 GTS over the 8600. I was just wondering which option would be the better performer in games, nothing else. And I really want a DX10 card as well, even though I'm not much for nVidia, theirs seem to be much better at the moment anyway. Also, anyone have any experience overclocking the Turions at all? They only draw 35W, so they must have very low heats, but who knows...


***********EDIT************************
I just got offered a PS3 for $250 CDN, so I think I'm gonna pick that up for now until DX10 has gone mainstream. I never even would have considered PS3, but the price is too low to resist. There better be a few good RPG's, other than Oblivion...think I'm gonna wait and play the pc version instead...
     
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I'd wait and settle for the 8800GTS, price drops happen July 22nd so gives you more time to save up for something nice.
 
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yeah, but I can pick up an 8800 GTS on thursday if it's concluded that an e6300. DDR2 and 8600 GT will not bench as well in games (mostly racing sims and FPS) as my 754 rig, except with Turion, 8800 GTS and another 1GB DDR400 for 2GB total.
     
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Motherboard:
P5NE-SLI or Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 (whichever you find cheaper)
PSU: Use THIS guide
HDD: 320GB seagate barracuda, perpandicular 130CAD$ shipped - I

Do not buy a new GPU yet. wait till the budget ATI cards come out (2600) by then either AMD will offer a better solution, OR nvidia's prices will have steadied. Right now they own the DX10budget, midrange AND somewhat the high end market so they can price however they want.

The worst you can do right now, i upgrade your DDR1 ram, or buy a new socket 754 cpu or mobo.
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the whole new rig will run me about $800-1000 CDN, but upgrading mine with the Turion, 1GB DDR400 and 8800 GTS will run me about $650 CDN.
     
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The E6300 is a good CPU and can OC very high, the 8600 is a little weak for a DX10 card though. Upto you dude...
 
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in case my first post was a little confusing, I'm deciding whether or not to upgrade current rig with the Turion and 8800 GTS (and mobo, but I already have it), or build a new rig, with the e6300. New rig will cost me about $800-1000 CDN, $650 to upgrade.
     
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post #8 of 10
Upgrade to a new rig, no point throwing money at an older one that's not really going to make much difference on upcoming games imo.
 
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post #9 of 10
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well, I will still build a new rig, but if I upgraded this one I could wait until the DX10 cards mature a little more, and maybe get something from ATI, which I really would prefer. It's just this rig I use now can't even game at medium anymore, and I kinda need something now. If I overclocked the Turion to about 2.6 or so, it would probably hold up pretty well. If I build the new rig, I will have to wait to buy an 8800 anyway. And the performance of an e6300 and 8600 GT will most likely be less than the Turion with an 8800 GTS 320, no? If I upgrade, I'd probably wait until quarter 3 or 4 of this year to build a new rig.
     
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750GB  Swiftech Apogee GT Danger Den CPX-1 Swiftech MCR220 
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Swiftech Micro Res 23" 1080P Samsung Ducky "OCN Edition" 1008 Antec TruePower New 650 
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Not sure yet...looking at cheap mech boards at ... Corsair CX600 Corsair Carbide Spec 01 Cooler Master CM Storm Spawn 
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Steel Series QCK Kinter MA-160 MSI TV Anywhere Plus 
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Intel Xeon X5450 Intel Xeon X5450 Proliant DL360 G5 EVGA Geforce GTX 780 Superclocked ACX 2.0 3GB 
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8GB (8x1GB) DDR2 667 FBDIMM 60GB SSD w/ PCIe SATA 3 controller Windows 7 Ultimate 700W 
Case
modified 1U (desktop conversion) 
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Intel i5 2500K @ 5GHz Asrock Z68 Exteme 3 Gen 3 Asus R9 290X Direct CU II OC 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
750GB  Swiftech Apogee GT Danger Den CPX-1 Swiftech MCR220 
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Swiftech Micro Res 23" 1080P Samsung Ducky "OCN Edition" 1008 Antec TruePower New 650 
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getting a PS3 for $250, so that will hold me over
     
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Intel Xeon W3565 (i7 960) Dell Precision T3500 Gigabyte R9 290X Windforce 10GB DDR3 PC3-10600 (5x2GB)  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
160GB+1TB 3.5"  Corsair H80 w/ clear tubing and 110mm tube rese... Windows 7 Ultimate Samsung 245BW 24" 1920x1200 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Not sure yet...looking at cheap mech boards at ... Corsair CX600 Corsair Carbide Spec 01 Cooler Master CM Storm Spawn 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Steel Series QCK Kinter MA-160 MSI TV Anywhere Plus 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
Intel Xeon X5450 Intel Xeon X5450 Proliant DL360 G5 EVGA Geforce GTX 780 Superclocked ACX 2.0 3GB 
RAMHard DriveOSPower
8GB (8x1GB) DDR2 667 FBDIMM 60GB SSD w/ PCIe SATA 3 controller Windows 7 Ultimate 700W 
Case
modified 1U (desktop conversion) 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500K @ 5GHz Asrock Z68 Exteme 3 Gen 3 Asus R9 290X Direct CU II OC 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
750GB  Swiftech Apogee GT Danger Den CPX-1 Swiftech MCR220 
CoolingMonitorKeyboardPower
Swiftech Micro Res 23" 1080P Samsung Ducky "OCN Edition" 1008 Antec TruePower New 650 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Bitfenix Shinobi XL window Cooler Master Storm Spawn Steel Series QCK+ Kinter MA-160 
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Intel Xeon W3565 (i7 960) Dell Precision T3500 Gigabyte R9 290X Windforce 10GB DDR3 PC3-10600 (5x2GB)  
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
160GB+1TB 3.5"  Corsair H80 w/ clear tubing and 110mm tube rese... Windows 7 Ultimate Samsung 245BW 24" 1920x1200 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Not sure yet...looking at cheap mech boards at ... Corsair CX600 Corsair Carbide Spec 01 Cooler Master CM Storm Spawn 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Steel Series QCK Kinter MA-160 MSI TV Anywhere Plus 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
Intel Xeon X5450 Intel Xeon X5450 Proliant DL360 G5 EVGA Geforce GTX 780 Superclocked ACX 2.0 3GB 
RAMHard DriveOSPower
8GB (8x1GB) DDR2 667 FBDIMM 60GB SSD w/ PCIe SATA 3 controller Windows 7 Ultimate 700W 
Case
modified 1U (desktop conversion) 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 2500K @ 5GHz Asrock Z68 Exteme 3 Gen 3 Asus R9 290X Direct CU II OC 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
750GB  Swiftech Apogee GT Danger Den CPX-1 Swiftech MCR220 
CoolingMonitorKeyboardPower
Swiftech Micro Res 23" 1080P Samsung Ducky "OCN Edition" 1008 Antec TruePower New 650 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Bitfenix Shinobi XL window Cooler Master Storm Spawn Steel Series QCK+ Kinter MA-160 
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