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Well, i idle at 29-31 celsius. Under load i go up to 45 to 46..... When i run orthos for less then a minute, i hit 51 or 52.... but i have never ran a computer that hard before... I am using air cooling, 2 80mm intakes in front and one on the side. I have a pci slot exhaust fan, and 2 80mm exhaust in the back. Im using the stock Heatsink they came with the chip, due to money issues atm. I bought a open box asus a8n32-sli mobo, which is a great mobo, and when i recieved it, the retention bracket was missing a clip. So i was unable to mount the heatsink onto the board. So i went out to the garage and found a little piece of metal and now i have it mounted. I cannot overclock because of the heatsink problem i believe.... When i change anything, the temps go through the roof. I have lowered the voltages and i still have high temps. So, i guess im asking if you guys see that these temps are ok. And what should i do about a new heatsink? I need one with a backplate i believe. When i recieved the board i checked it out and i did notice that there is the backplate that comes with the board, BUT it seemed almost impossible to get off (I was so excited to get the board i never really put any pressure behind it) So, i think ill stop rambling on now and let you guys decide
    
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Your idle temps are great. 45C load temps are good too. Orthos seems to push the processor a little harder than normal, that's why it creates more heat.

Your temps are fine.

When you're overclocking, how much vcore are you giving it?
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None, im scared to overheat. I see 50c and it gets shut down All of the overvoltage features are disabled
    
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None, im scared to overheat. I see 50c and it gets shut down All of the overvoltage features are disabled
60C is likely the max you should go. If 50C shuts down or restarts your computer, I believe that would be instability. If it's instability, you do not have enough vcore.
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60c?! Wow....i guess i have head room then. If i was going to go out and upgrade the heatsink, what should i buy? Oh, and if your looking at the cp specs, its the wrong cp. This is a 939 AMD 3800+.
    
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60c?! Wow....i guess i have head room then. If i was going to go out and upgrade the heatsink, what should i buy? Oh, and if your looking at the cp specs, its the wrong cp. This is a 939 AMD 3800+.
Ah, AMD CPUs, I lack of knowledge in this path.

Some of the popular heat sinks

Zalman 9700
Big Typoon

Since this is AMD stuff, I don't know much.
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60c?! Wow....i guess i have head room then. If i was going to go out and upgrade the heatsink, what should i buy? Oh, and if your looking at the cp specs, its the wrong cp. This is a 939 AMD 3800+.
Ah, AMD CPUs, I lack of knowledge in this path.

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Tuniq
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Well thanks anyways Ill take a look at those!
    
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Well, i idle at 29-31 celsius. Under load i go up to 45 to 46..... When i run orthos for less then a minute, i hit 51 or 52.... but i have never ran a computer that hard before... I am using air cooling, 2 80mm intakes in front and one on the side. I have a pci slot exhaust fan, and 2 80mm exhaust in the back. Im using the stock Heatsink they came with the chip, due to money issues atm. I bought a open box asus a8n32-sli mobo, which is a great mobo, and when i recieved it, the retention bracket was missing a clip. So i was unable to mount the heatsink onto the board. So i went out to the garage and found a little piece of metal and now i have it mounted. I cannot overclock because of the heatsink problem i believe.... When i change anything, the temps go through the roof. I have lowered the voltages and i still have high temps. So, i guess im asking if you guys see that these temps are ok. And what should i do about a new heatsink? I need one with a backplate i believe. When i recieved the board i checked it out and i did notice that there is the backplate that comes with the board, BUT it seemed almost impossible to get off (I was so excited to get the board i never really put any pressure behind it) So, i think ill stop rambling on now and let you guys decide
If you've got a broken CPU cooler retention module and it's preventing you from even using the stock CPU cooler, then I think you've got three options:

1) You can try to find a CPU cooler retention module from eBay, or perhaps the For Sale section here. I believe they're all standardized for whatever socket your motherboard is (that is, if it's a Socket 939 retention module you need, all Socket 939 motherboards will have the same exact one).

2) You can get an aftermarket CPU cooler that uses a proprietary retention module. Excellent ones I can recommend that fit this category include the Thermalright XP-90/XP-90C (very good for single-core CPUs and for light overclocking on dual-cores, though some users have excellent results with heavily overclocked dual-cores) and its bigger brother, the XP-120. These come with a custom retention module and they work superbly.

3) You can also get an aftermarket CPU cooler that doesn't require a retention module at all. The Thermalright Ultra 120, for example, requires that the retention module be removed from a S939 motherboard so that its own retention hardware can be used. The Thermaltake Big Typhoon (the original, non-VX version) is also a screw-down cooler, if I'm not mistaken.

I hope one of these suggestions helps you out.

Now, as far as your temperatures go, on the face of things 51 degrees C at load is fine. However, for a CPU running stock speeds it's a little high, in my opinion. On the other hand, the high reading may be a consequence of the cooler mounting being less than optimal.

Last, the backplate comes off when you disassemble the retention module, I believe. I have the same motherboard, and as I recall the retention module and the backplate are secured by the same screws. Remove these screws, and both should be freed from their respective sides of the board with a small tug.

I hope this helps you!
    
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post #10 of 10
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That was alot of helpful info! Thanks alot and i will look into these things. Yes the heatsink does clamp down, but its just a piece of metal and i didnt know how much pressure should have been put down on it. But i will definitely take a look into those!
    
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