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I was a skeptical user at first, still turning back to IE for everything. I didn't like Firefox's cold start times. Forever. But then I used it more and more and now whole-heartedly recommend it. All the people I ask to try it are at first skeptical, too, but later impressed with the speed and security. IE7 is slower and has a worse interface (both IMO) than IE6. Therefore, the order I'd use browsers in, from most readily to least, is: Firefox, Opera, IE6, and IE7. I also love Firefox's easiness of integrating themes and extensions, etc. I really will never look back.
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Here's an honest rundown of why IE is not good. I'm trying to keep it as unbias as possible:

1. It doesn't render websites well. I'm ****ing tired of crippling my website layouts because Microsoft can't keep up with web standards. This is a good example of how bad IE is at rendering. This was an early in development layout that turned out ugly when I viewed it in IE for the first time. The other browsers are using the Opera, Gecko, or KHTML (Webkit) rendering engines, which display perfectly fine.

2. IE 7 screws up fonts so that you can't read it, especially on LCDs. I have very good nearsight vision, and it screws up my vision. How on earth can people read with it?

3. IE has lack of expandability. Most people don't realize this, but Firefox is modular, and it takes skill to create a modular program, which makes the program EXTREMELY flexible. (I think the term isn't "modular" but something else. Anyway, it's very cool. IE offers little expandability.)

4. IE isn't open source and doesn't port to other operating systems. I try to be an open source oriented as possible.

5. Security: Firefox and other open source browsers may have security holes, but they are fixed quickly.

6. At a web developer's perspective the look of IE 7 is ugly. I personally see no improvement over the IE 6 look. You can at least change the firefox look if you don't like it.

Myths/Who cares:
1. Firefox loads websites faster than IE? Opera loads even faster? I can't tell a difference.

2. Firefox users are generally more intelligent than IE users? I don't understand how that could possibly be researchable? IQ tests? They're BS to begin with. And not to mention, who knows how the researchers got the people to survey? I bet more avid firefox users wanted to be surveyed than IE users.

May I interject my own personal opinion (like I haven't already). Who do you want to support? The big, billion dollar organization? Or the smaller man? Sure, there are other factors to consider in which is a better organization (when comparing Microsoft to Mozilla), but to me, this is a no brainier.

I hope I enlightened some people. However, I'd like I note that I don't know the ins and outs of IE 7 as much as... IE 7 users. On the other hand, I was the kid back in elementary school who would yell at anyone who used Netscape, and always urged IE use. It was when I was 12/13 that I realized I wanted to try something new, and learned how much IE (6) sucked when compared to the very buggy Firebird (Firebird, then Phoenix, which is what it was named in early development stages before dubbed "Firefox").

I think Firefox has gone in the wrong path in recent days. They should be focusing on basic functionality, fixing bugs, and everything. That's what's really holding Firefox back. Maybe include a few extensions, a few extra tricks, but no more. Don't bloat firefox any more than it needs to be.

Sorry for the long post. I was thinking about this very topic earlier today, and saw this thread...
post #23 of 55
FF takes to long to startup cold. thats why i use IE
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FF takes to long to startup cold. thats why i use IE
That's it? What a poor reason. I personally prefer 1/2 second extra weight for a more extensible browser. How else can I load my ad blocker, website "restyler" (Stylish), javascript debugger, gmail account manager, and a decent download manager?

I mean, I can see your point. One buys a nice computer, and Firefox loads just as slow, and still has memory leaks which can be annoying.

But I like how Firefox/Opera can save the last session. Sure saves me more time than trying to do that in IE. (Or can you?) Certainly waiting an extra few seconds to have all your previous tabs exactly the way they were before is a life saver. Firefox may have memory leaks, but if I want to play a game, I close the browser. It loads quicker for the second launch, and your session is exactly the same as it was before.

Perhaps you should explain your reasoning a little bit more?! I'm trying to explain what's inside my head, and why. Maybe I'm inherently better at doing that than most people because I constantly challenge/question society's ways? (Maybe I'm speaking my thoughts a little too much. )
post #25 of 55
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FF takes to long to startup cold. thats why i use IE
Are you joking? Jeez, worst reason I've ever heard.
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I've try'd FF and Opera and I stayed with IE because I dont like the way you have to Download/Open or save files using FF. Also a couple of my programs wont work with FF or Opera. Maybe im just too used to IE. Oh I hate IE 7 though I kept 6.
    
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post #27 of 55
Just use to FF now and it has a lot of useful plugins and cool looking themes.
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Why dont you use IE?
It gave me a rash after our first date
    
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It gave me a rash after our first date
I'm sure that they have a plugin for that too. Lol, Gein.

I tried Opera, but it's a little too weird for me. I didn't like how the tabs were placed above the Navigation tools; and I didn't like how when you middle click, the mouse arrow would snap to the middle of the browser :/
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I've try'd FF and Opera and I stayed with IE because I dont like the way you have to Download/Open or save files using FF. Also a couple of my programs wont work with FF or Opera. Maybe im just too used to IE. Oh I hate IE 7 though I kept 6.
Wait, isn't it close to the same in IE? You click a download link, it asks you where to download to or to run on finish, and it downloads it. I guess maybe that intermediate dialog is non-existent in IE. I'd have to check again. :/
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