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I made up my mind... it happened... I surrendered... it's in the mail (and it isn't ATI... yikes... Chozart going nVidia for the first time seriously?? you better believe it)
    
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We all know that ATI has obviously put things on the "back burner" for some strange reason. My thoughts, "ATI & AMD have something up their sleeve for the future"


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I made up my mind... it happened... I surrendered... it's in the mail (and it isn't ATI... yikes... Chozart going nVidia for the first time seriously?? you better believe it)
Yes on the good side

Anyways Thanks for the fix

Sadly I have an ATI card...........
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How does 55fps average sound in the FEAR bench w/4xAA 8xAF @1280x1024 all details set to maximum?

I'll hit over 50fps average at max settings in any currently released game besides stalker which IMO runs like crap, and that is at stock clock of 580 core. It'll do 650 without breaking a sweat.

This was the first review that came up in a web search, many others that I've read say EXACTLY the same thing:

http://techreport.com/reviews/2007q2...0/index.x?pg=1

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At any rate, the 8600 cards come out looking pretty good, with GTS tying the Radeon X1950 Pro. None of these cards are as quiet as the high-end cards with massive dual-slot coolers, though.
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That said, the GeForce 8600 GTS faces much stiffer competition in the form of the GeForce 7900 GS and, especially, the Radeon X1950 Pro. The GeForce 8600 GTS is a very good product, but it's fighting above its natural weight class when it takes on the these competitors, both of which have 256-bit paths to memory. The 8600 GTS variant we tested did largely hold its own against the Radeon X1950 Pro in terms of performance, even scoring clear victories in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and 3DMark06, but the X1950 Pro had an edge overall. That's true even though we used the "overclocked in the box" version of the 8600 GTS from XFX, a card that lists for $239. The Radeon X1950 Pro can be had for around $179 at online vendors if you shop around.
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Just for fun I made a list of every card I've owned in the past three years:

Chaintech 6600GT
EVGA 6800GS
BFG 7800GT OC
Gigabyte X800XL silent
Gigabyte 7600GT silent
EVGA 7900GT
Asus x1950pro

So what kind of Nutter fanboy am I anyways?
post #55 of 66
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I made up my mind... it happened... I surrendered... it's in the mail (and it isn't ATI... yikes... Chozart going nVidia for the first time seriously?? you better believe it)
Welcome to the good side, god will forgive you im sure for using ATI, if you ask it of him
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Welcome to the good side, god will forgive you im sure for using ATI, if you ask it of him
shell... your fanboyism is getting a little annoying

Both companies make good cards. For once, nVidia has the sweet spot in the price/performance/image quality combination

In all your rants against ATI, you use the same excuses for nVidia of which you accuse ATI (immature drivers, cards need to mature, etc.).

Also, when you compare products, you should be fair. It's commonly agreed upon that ATI delivered better image quality with the X8xx series and the X1xx series than nVidia did with their 6xxx and 7xxx series. That's an aspect you never took into consideration with your comparisons.

Now, I have not seen the HD2900XT image quality, but that might again be better than the nVidia cards. However, the price makes the 8800GTS the winner for an excellent card.
    
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shell... your fanboyism is getting a little annoying

Both companies make good cards. For once, nVidia has the sweet spot in the price/performance/image quality combination

In all your rants against ATI, you use the same excuses for nVidia of which you accuse ATI (immature drivers, cards need to mature, etc.).

Also, when you compare products, you should be fair. It's commonly agreed upon that ATI delivered better image quality with the X8xx series and the X1xx series than nVidia did with their 6xxx and 7xxx series. That's an aspect you never took into consideration with your comparisons.

Now, I have not seen the HD2900XT image quality, but that might again be better than the nVidia cards. However, the price makes the 8800GTS the winner for an excellent card.
im not a fanboy, just disgusted 100% with ATI at the moment, 6 months late and nothing to show for it. The only thing i say about nvidia drivers is the 8600 drivers used for reviewers was the 158.19 driver set which was not the driver set nvidia wanted to release these cards with, it wasnt even meant to have 8600 support but 158.22 was delayed and they had a launch date to keep so they added 8600 to the INF and there we have the 8600 cards release drivers. Also the imagine quality might have been slighty better on the radeon cards, but not noticable to most of the gamers, most dont care if ATI draws a slighty better line than nvidia because admit it when your fragging you dont stop to say oh that rock was rendered beautiful
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im not a fanboy, just disgusted 100% with ATI at the moment, 6 months late and nothing to show for it. The only thing i say about nvidia drivers is the 8600 drivers used for reviewers was the 158.19 driver set which was not the driver set nvidia wanted to release these cards with, it wasnt even meant to have 8600 support but 158.22 was delayed and they had a launch date to keep so they added 8600 to the INF and there we have the 8600 cards release drivers. Also the imagine quality might have been slighty better on the radeon cards, but not noticable to most of the gamers, most dont care if ATI draws a slighty better line than nvidia because admit it when your fragging you dont stop to say oh that rock was rendered beautiful
Not all games are about fragging

There are games for which there are hundreds of mods to improve image quality (Oblivion...), and yes, for those games image quality matters.

ATI was late yes...and that did influence my decision.

But they're a company.... I would not be disgusted about a company being late with a product... I would not care and move on. The HD2900XT still is a good card, although they priced it a little too high to be a good competitor for the 8800GTS (just psychologically, $399 would have sounded a LOT better than $419).
    
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Not all games are about fragging

There are games for which there are hundreds of mods to improve image quality (Oblivion...), and yes, for those games image quality matters.

ATI was late yes...and that did influence my decision.

But they're a company.... I would not be disgusted about a company being late with a product... I would not care and move on. The HD2900XT still is a good card, although they priced it a little too high to be a good competitor for the 8800GTS (just psychologically, $399 would have sounded a LOT better than $419).
its not just that, alot of ppl will need a new PSU for the HD2900XT that wont for the 8800GTS so tack on another 70 or so bucks for a good quality PSU for there XT.
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its not just that, alot of ppl will need a new PSU for the HD2900XT that wont for the 8800GTS so tack on another 70 or so bucks for a good quality PSU for there XT.
That's a valid point... at least you need to get an converter for that 8-pin cnonector (some 2900's come with that converter though.... so you don't need a new PSU if yu have a good quality unit)
    
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