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Just received an eMachines T3104 for a friend for my own testing testing purposes. I am wondering what your reccomedations would be to keep the temperature as low as can be. I have a great supply of fans and heat sinks but I would like to know personal opinions of where I should be putting extra fans plus heat sinks.

Any response of yours is appreciated. As for the computer's current condition in temperature, fine. I have not yet started overclocking but would like to know (in a seperate thread I will be making) how to go about starting that.

Thanks,
Paul
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Hi again

I just replied to your other thread.

I believe we should first determine to what level that eMachines is overclockable before thinking about upgraded cooling.

Since this is likely a socket 754 board (based on the VIA K8M800), it might not be too easy to find a good cooler.... I'll leave that up to the AMD boys
    
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my granddad has one of those, and its not worth getting a new cooler. it cant do anything pertaining to overclocking. ...your best upgrade would be a mobo that can overclock
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Originally Posted by TheSubtleKnife View Post
my granddad has one of those, and its not worth getting a new cooler. it cant do anything pertaining to overclocking. ...your best upgrade would be a mobo that can overclock
Hi, thanks for the response!

I have been able to overclock using ClockGen about 200 MHZ and more. I worry though that it may overheat. What can I do for keeping my temp low?

Paul
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Sempron 3100+ First International Computer, Inc S3 UniChrome 3D 512 MB RAM 
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100 GB DVD/CD-RW Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 Standard CRT monitor 
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100 GB DVD/CD-RW Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 Standard CRT monitor 
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post #5 of 8
With the stock cooling on my Sempron 64 3000+, I manage 1.55V (up from 1.4V stock) and 2502MHz (up from 1800MHz), 38-40 degrees idle, 48-53 load temps. The stock HSF's are surprisingly good, handling my motherboards overclocking limits without problem. I think the Semprons run a bit cooler than the Athlons though, but don't quote me on it.
     
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post #6 of 8
if you're looking for a good overclocking mobo for your setup, I just checked ebay this morning and there's a few DFI Lanparty nForce3 s754 mobo's up for sale, and everyone swears by there extreme overclocking ability, hitting 300+ FSB with ease, although I've never had any first-hand time with one.
     
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Not sure yet...looking at cheap mech boards at ... Corsair CX600 Corsair Carbide Spec 01 Cooler Master CM Storm Spawn 
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post #7 of 8
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Have my system overclocked at about 200 MHZ past norm. Doing the Orthos test now. Monitoring with SpeedFan. One question, though, the core is hanging around 52C, is this okay or too hot?

Paul


P.S. Thanks for your help!
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Sempron 3100+ First International Computer, Inc S3 UniChrome 3D 512 MB RAM 
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100 GB DVD/CD-RW Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 Standard CRT monitor 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
100 GB DVD/CD-RW Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 Standard CRT monitor 
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post #8 of 8
You're ok with that setting yes

Have you recently done some cleaning? It might be dusty in there. Get a can with compressed air, and clean out the heatsink.

Also, if possible, ensure good front-to-back airflow in the case
    
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