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Originally Posted by Edstrung View Post
Charity and shareholders never mixes well
This has/always will be true.
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post #22 of 31
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Originally Posted by Guswut View Post
Seriously now, Intel isn't out to help the world. They're here to make money. If you can't understand that a company is designed to make money, then perhaps capitalism isn't for you?
Hence my point at the end if you'd read my post. My point is that this isn't the way forward by any means. Sadly the real world is all money money money and we're always going to be in a situation where a big company is ready to screw over weaker, less informed countries. The point of this thread is that what Intel is doing is completely immoral and disrespectful to other organisations striving to provide IT to less fortunate countries.
    
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post #23 of 31
A big influence on the unit sale price is the fact that it's up to the component manufacturers, such as Asus and Realtek, as to what these laptops will be sold to world governments for.

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Intel does not make these PCs. Instead, it designs them and gives free blueprints to manufacturers and the independent dealers who make up the channel.

Kanellos, M., 15/06/2006, Intel's bridge for the digital divide;
http://news.com.com/Intels+bridge+fo...3-6084250.html
Accessed: 21/05/2007
As everyone should know, hardware is useless without good software and support. I believe that this is playing a key factor in the Classmate's priceing and very likely explains why countries are chooseing it over the OLPC project's offering.

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And with regards to the software, we’re not really building educational software for the laptop. We don’t consider it our job, we’re just building the basic tools to let those kinds of things flourish. And you can imagine that with an install base in the millions that that kind of software is likely to pop up for sale.

Blizzard, C., 27/09/2006, One Laptop Update;
http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=222#comment-792
Accessed: 21/05/2007
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Which pretty much sums up the entire OLPC implementation plan: if we build it, and you buy at least a million, everything will magically work out. Or an implementation plan that is equal parts arrogance and denial.

Vota, W., 29/09/2006, Classmate PC vs. 2B1 Children's Machine
http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/ni...pc_vs_2b1.html
Accessed: 21/05/2007
I agree that the OLPC project would be a the better alternative if price was the only decideing factor, but unfortunately without adequate software developement and maintenance the OPLC project will seem risky to the influential figures of these nations. Obviously the people with power in the countries that purchase these systems will want their money to be invested into their education systems wisely. That in turn means purchaseing a product that not only provides the computing needs they require, but is also guaranteed to operate correctly with an appropriate level of support. Given Intel's involvement in the implementation of wireless networks in remote regions, I'd say that their capable of organiseing the support required.
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How are intel robbing little kids by selling a laptop that they probably wont buy?

It's not like they're forcing anyone to buy it instead of the OLPC one.
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First of I would like to say Johnny.... SPELLCHECK!

Your posts are painfully hard to read.

Second...who cares? The $100 laptop is actually $175 now, are you going to criticize the guys because they have to recoup money already invested?

Thirdly, if Intel plans on selling these and making money they are sadly mistaken I have customers who sell to Africa and other 4th world countries..they CANNOT buy at more than $75-$100 because the economy they are being sold into will not support it.

If Intel wants to try it...be my guest. Its all part of Capitalism, bit&* if you want, but thats what made this country so great, the pursuit of the dollar.
    
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post #26 of 31
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Charity and shareholders never mixes well
indeed, i have intel stock, id rather them not give **** away for free

if the third world countries deem buying the 300$ laptop over the 100$ laptop... then they dont really need to be buying a cheap laptop do they? the ones who need it will buy the 100$ laptop so whats the issue
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post #27 of 31
i like others think us as a country should stay away,and take care of our oun,there are lots of kids in this ,the usa that dont have laptops,i feel for 3rd world countries ,god damit take care of our own first..
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Originally Posted by Whodie View Post
: puts on flame suit and hunkers down in flame retardant bunker :

Now, here's my question, regardless if it is the "<$100" laptop or Intel's $300 laptop, what real benefit do either have to "poor" children throughout the world. Now, I'm not being callous, but by definition being below the poverty line (i.e. legitimately poor) would mean that you are struggling to put a roof over your head and eating more than 1 meal a day. What exactly is a laptop going to do for people in that situation? They are HIGHLY unlikely to be able to afford electricity to power it, let alone have access to the internet (which I believe is where any real value would be).

If the target market for either of these laptops is in fact NOT to the "poor" but instead to those who would be considered "sub-standard" living, then yes, I could see the benefit. If the parents strongly believe in bettering their children and making sacrifices to pay for the extra utility costs and maybe even internet access, then it would be worthwhile.
They actually don't need electricity if it isn't available. The company provides a hand crank that they said would provide something like a half hour of power for the laptop. The laptop has wifi built in, and it seems like all the children in the 60 minutes special were able to use the internet at their schools.

There is a benefit in that children can actually learn, even when they aren't in school. One child was seen learning english with his laptop, and if he could do that, that opens a wide range of learning opportunities for him. One other point that they made is that the children actually wanted to go to school, which I wouldn't doubt is the case.
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post #29 of 31
im not sayiny they wont learn, lets take care of our own first,theyl learn or lan. an they will all be over here takin our jobs
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post #30 of 31
Can't blame Intel, If i had a company I'd probably do the same thing. Why spend $300 when you could spend $100 and get almost the same performance as you said. Don't think they're that dumb
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