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sccr: he picked an X1550PRO
    
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If you compare trendy's suggestion and my suggestion, the specs are pretty close. He added an Optical drive, but cheated with the hard drive, so that offsets each other. (OP did say 200-250GB). Get the 250GB drive with trendy's rig, and his total will be $235 or so. Add the optical to mine, and the total will be the same.

These are two good solutions for the same price.

It's basically a better CPU v. 2GB RAM.
    
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Good ideas guys, appreciate it, heres what Ive come up with so far.

E4300 $113
Still undecided on mobo
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-5400c4 $74.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3250620AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive $69.99
FSP Group (Fortron Source) FSP400-60THN ATX2.0, attached PCi-Express Connector 400W Power Supply $41.99


I want onboard video because seriously it will never touch a game. I will be building a new PC for gaming when the dust settles from the ati/nvidia dx10 wars. Above is looking pretty good, I have a samsung widescreen 19" monitor dedicated to this system already with keyboard/mouse/speakers/fax/printer. So all I need is the tower. Ill look at those mobos modki posted once I get a chance. Other than that this is looking great. Im not on a definate scrict budget but for what I need it for it doesnt need to be top of the line. Was thinking about a laptop with a docking station but paying twice as much for the same performance, I just cant justify that.
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even if you don't game, I would still get the dedicated card. It's not for gaming, but just to free up system RAM, get a possibility to overclock, and just better performance (esp. Vista).

I highly recommend an dedicated card, no matter what purpose the rig is for.

And you firmly set on Intel?
    
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get a video card like he said can run 1 gb of ram if wanted with no worry of using it up
    
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post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by sepheroth003 View Post
This is for a side project business I will be doing at home. No graphics card needed, just running internet, email, quicken, office and stuff like that. Currently using an Athlon 750mhz. Heres what Im thinking...

C2D 4300
Mobo (so out of it, intel or nvidia?)
at least 1gb ram, 2gb if price is right
onboard graphics
onboard audio
200-250gb HD (thinking seagate 7200.10)
buy case at local shop unless I find a really good deal online.

Was almost thinking about trying to get one of those ultra 500w psus for free, but i dont want my system to blow up so I might step up to a $30-$40 psu for stability reasons.

Thanks for any help ahead of time, Im at work and my supervisor is kinda being a stickler today so not sure how often I will get to check this. Thats also why your helping me so much, not enough internet time to look on newegg and do the research of chipsets.
I'll suggest a mobo I used in a recent build, with easy and smooth results. http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813131046
Only hitch - it's defaults want to see a floppy drive. Simple BIOS procedure to disable if you're not running a floppy. Built it for my Mom w/e6300, wd7200.10 250, 1gb kingston valueRam. (Mom's not into OC) There are some decent OC features on the board, and the video is good enough for general use. The bonus here is a PCI-e x16 slot, in case you decide you need to play next gen games.
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I am pretty much stuck on intel. Use to hate intel and loved AMD ever since my K6-2 400 was faster than my P3 450. Plus the company just seems better maintained. See lots of firings at intel. But even though Ive been an AMD fanboy this whole time the C2D changed everything. Intel is finally giving a far suprior product at lower or the same price. So I can't deny that intel is doign exactly what AMD was doing the whole time. That and the delays with R600 and barcelona are just depressing me. I see nothing but bad stuff happening with AMD right now.

I wouldnt think 128mb that onboard takes up would matter with 2gb but its not gunna cost more than $40 mroe to get a dedicated card, Ill do it just to please all of you lol.
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post #18 of 28
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Originally Posted by sepheroth003 View Post
Intel is finally giving a far suprior product at lower or the same price.
If you compare equally priced products, AMD and Intel are really close in performance. It's only when overclocking is factored in that the Intels jump to another level.
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I wouldnt think 128mb that onboard takes up would matter with 2gb but its not gunna cost more than $40 mroe to get a dedicated card, Ill do it just to please all of you lol.
It's your money, so don't buy something to please others. If you want to use onboard video and purchase a video card at a later time, then do so.
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Originally Posted by sepheroth003 View Post
I am pretty much stuck on intel. Use to hate intel and loved AMD ever since my K6-2 400 was faster than my P3 450. Plus the company just seems better maintained. See lots of firings at intel. But even though Ive been an AMD fanboy this whole time the C2D changed everything. Intel is finally giving a far suprior product at lower or the same price. So I can't deny that intel is doign exactly what AMD was doing the whole time. That and the delays with R600 and barcelona are just depressing me. I see nothing but bad stuff happening with AMD right now.

I wouldnt think 128mb that onboard takes up would matter with 2gb but its not gunna cost more than $40 mroe to get a dedicated card, Ill do it just to please all of you lol.
I disagree.

The E4300 isn't *that* much better than the X2 3600+. Here are some benchmarks:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...o-e6420_5.html

On most applications the difference between the X2 3600+ and the E4300 is around 10%-12% (some exceptions, most notably Excel). However, the X2 3600+ is $45 cheaper, which is a solid argument.

If you compare equal prices CPUs, you are looking at the X2 4600+, which stock-to-stock beats the E4300 in most benchmarks (exceptions: Excel, and some close calls in multimedia stuff)
    
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I disagree.

The E4300 isn't *that* much better than the X2 3600+. Here are some benchmarks:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...o-e6420_5.html

On most applications the difference between the X2 3600+ and the E4300 is around 10%-12% (some exceptions, most notably Excel). However, the X2 3600+ is $45 cheaper, which is a solid argument.
Um Im an overclocker right? lol Its going to be clock at about 2.5ghz for 1000% stability (yes I wrote 1 thousand). Now tell me a 3600+ can keep up with a 4300 at 2.5... I'm sure a 3600+ would work, hell my 3800+ is great in windows but I would rather just spend the extra money and be happy with it. Plus it gives me some more exp for building a system like this. Im looking at getting the 3.0ghz dual core c2d for my rebuild on my gaming pc. (assuming I dont get hooked on the ps3/360 i buy)
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