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Why bother? Stepping is only good to give generalities, but tells us very little useful info. There's no point in looking at the stepping now because he already owns it. Just see what the chip can do because every chip is different Trial and error is the only surefire way to see what your chip can do
So we know if it's a known 3.0GHz stepping we can tell him that there's LIKELY more in the chip or if it's a dog stepping that he's pretty much where he should be.

The last part there needs to be copy and pasted plus an added "so quit asking" to about 40% of the threads on OCN.
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So we know if it's a known 3.0GHz stepping we can tell him that there's more in the chip or if it's a dog stepping that he's pretty much where he should be.

The last part there needs to be copy and pasted plus an added "so quit asking" to about 40% of the threads on OCN.
Knowing the stepping doesn't tell you that there's more in the chip or that it's a dog. Again, steppings are generalities and nothing more. You can have outrageous overclockers from bad steppings or bad overclockers from good steppings. Only way to know is to test
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Knowing the stepping doesn't tell you that there's more in the chip or that it's a dog. Again, steppings are generalities and nothing more. You can have outrageous overclockers from bad steppings or bad overclockers from good steppings. Only way to know is to test
I've personally never seen a chip do more or less than 200MHz than the average for a stepping. (Phase change and other things not withstanding) I've seen next to done do more or less than 150MHz off from the average. I understand what you're saying but there ARE things to be said about steppings. A CCBBE 0610 doesn't guarantee a 3.0GHz OC but I've NEVER seen one do less than 2.9 on good air. (Unless the person is the type to get it to 2.7 on stock voltage and call it even. Even then, I'd be willing to say that it'd hit 2.9 pretty easily.)
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Thx for all the wonderful replies Can you give me more information about stepping? I have no idea what it is but think it will be nice to know it. I'll check the number on the chip in 1 sec after I get my tools
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On my chip it saids:

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AMD Athlon 64

ADA4400DAA6CD
CCBWE 0537PRMW
1326157I50782

ASSEMBLED IN MALAYSIA
is it THE dog or the hedgehog

also here is some BIOS photo, and see there is 2 picture with different vcore setting. The first one is normal, the second one with over voltage, which gives 0.2 to the total voltage giving me 1.424 after CPU-Z checked it. And by having the choice of changing my FSB multiplier, also removing the auto voltage option (weird how they fall under the same category ), so I must set one manually.




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2 more pictures...

mem clock = FSB x mem value/200

HTT = FSB x K8-NB Multiplier x 2 = 2000

from what I heard, and seems to be true to my mobo so far

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CCBWE 0537PRMW
This is your stepping code. It indicates its production status (production, engineering sample, etc.), what type of CPU (dual-core), amount of L2 cache (1MB per core), memory controller version, and batch date of manufacture (37th week of 2005).

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From your screenshots, it looks like you've got your BIOS settings done fine. I've got a very similar motherboard, so I'm familiar with the BIOS.

I think you simply have a CPU with a relatively low ceiling for overclocking. None of your settings look amiss, and your stepping indicates that the memory controller version is one of those which, statistically speaking, isn't known for scaling much above 2.5GHz. Stepping information is not necessarily a black or white kind of thing; they do, however, suggest statistical probability of a CPU's overclocking potential.
    
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Change "K8 to NB frequency " to 3x.
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post #20 of 27
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Change "K8 to NB frequency " to 3x.
Not really necessary, in my opinion, if he's at 250MHz in "FSB." (3 x 250 = 750; 4 x 250 = 1000)

No harm in trying it, though, I suppose.
    
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