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Hey all ..

Having just posted in the Welcome forums, my attention now turns here for my 1st real post.

Having been a computer junkie since 1988 (Oh the sweet days of Commodore and Amiga ) .. I have always wanted to build a great computer myself. I built several years ago, when Athlon was fairly new, and the fastest chips were no more than 1.5gb (so like 4-5 years ago). I have always built stock, and never overclocked with lots of fancy stuff, but hopefully this summer, I can get the chance to put something together.

Having gathered my info from browsing here (and finally joining), I am looking at the following build, at least as a starting point. My main interests are avi-mpg encoding, dvd authoring, and gaming. I really dont do much of anything else, save browsing the net'.

Intel E6420 (not greedy on the OC .. if I can get to 3.2-3.4 or so, I'll be happy)
CPU Cooler - Maybe the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro 92mm ??
Asus MB (P5B Deluxe perhaps ?)
(2) Western Digital Caviar SE HD's (have always used them and never failed me) Is SATA w/16mb cach ok ??
2gb G.Skill DDR2 800 RAM
GeForce 8600GTS (or perhaps 8800gts) PCI-E
MB Sound, or maybe a basic creative SB Audigy
Case/Power - open to suggestion (want something with a clear side panel, lots of fans, and fancy lights lol)
Windows Vista (to take advantage of DX10) - I dont like it, and have been a fan of XP Pro for years now, but you gotta do what ya gotta do I guess

My budget will be around $1200 or so. Would prefer to spend less if I can get away with it. Very eager to run Crysis when it gets released so thats a priority of some sort (although it doesnt have to be max settings).

As mentioned, completely new at this .. so if you start mentioning volts, and ram cas 4-4-4-12 and all this, Im gonna get lost. I have the general idea down (all done through BIOS) but try to keep it understandable till I learn more. Basic stuff would help me best at the moment.

Thanx in advance all, and hope to get to know lots of you in the coming months !

    
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post #2 of 19
if you get standard-ish 800mhz ram it might not be able to overclock far itself. in this instance getting the 6420 will really make it easier to get to 3.2GHz - 400 FSB x8 in that situation. ram would be x2=800. to do the same on a 6320 requires 457x7=3200. 457x2=914 for the RAM which is obviously an issue when it's rated at 800MHz. lots of ram will do it but a lot of ram will be picky or just wont go that far.

alternatively get a 6600. with its x9 multiplier it again makes the process a bit simpler.

for easy round numbers the 6420 gets you where you want. its pretty much what i've done with my 6300 - 400x7=2800 and ram x2=800.

as for your other choices a lot of it is stuff i dont use. lots of people like the asus boards so you'll probably not go far wrong there. i've had no trouble out of my gigabyte s3...infact it was an absolute breeze to overclock. if you're going for something with good performance you'll maybe need to look at the gigabyte DS3 instead which is also quite a popular board.

will you be using SLI or just a single graphics card? you mentioned video stuff and gaming so SLI might be something to consider...but it really depends on what level you're doing it at.
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game alot sound card and speakers with headset are cool but not nessasary build looks good any case from TT Antec Aerocool or Lian Li are awesome depends the money heres a link to some stuff

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l1/g1/C...ml?id=DgnLdJTS
    
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Might as well get Vista XP getting phased out by 08 I heard
    
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post #5 of 19
Looks good to me but:
Get the 8800GTs if you can.
Keep the power quiet. I got a 500w and it is very noisy compared to everything else in my build!
and good luck keeping under $1200. Don't forget the goodies like DVD and flopy/card reader combos.
 
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post #6 of 19
I put together a shopping cart on Newegg with everything you have listed and you are looking at around $1250 shipped for it, but like technik suggested I also would go with a E6600 instead and go with a 8800GTS which will boost that another $150 to $200. But shop around for prices like i did will save you $$ in the long haul. ZipZoomFly has the EVGA 8800GTS 320MB for $280 shipped and as kip69 stated that includes no optical/floppy drives either
post #7 of 19
if your getting that much to spend you should wait til end of july to buy parts cause you can do better than that for that price then
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Originally Posted by batman72401 View Post
if your getting that much to spend you should wait til end of XXXX to buy parts cause you can do better than that for that price then
Aways true, isn't it???
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post #9 of 19
Here's the rig I suggest, best bang for your buck. Obvisously the Q6600 will be based on the pricing in July, for 266$. If you dont want to wait that long, just replace the Q6600 with the E6600, which is around 225$ at newegg.

Here's the WISH list:

CPU: Q6600
MOBO: P5N-E SLI
RAM: 2*1GB G.SKILL DDR2-800 (HZs)
HDD: 500GB SATA II Seagate Barracuda, Perpandicular. 16MB cache
GPU: Leadtek PX 8800GTS 320MB Extreme
Sound: Soundblaster X-FI Extreme gamer
DVD/CD: LG 16X DVD RW
PSU: Xclio Goodpower SLI certified 500W
CASE: Coolermaster Centurion 5
EDIT: cooler: Arctic Freezer 7 Pro

All for around 1100$ (right now on the list shows for 1,562.41$ taxes and shipping included cause Q6600 is still at 500$)
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post #10 of 19
I too would like to recommend the 8800GTs over the 8600. I have seen lots of people have lots of problems running 8600's, and I would be willing to make a fairly large wager that Crysis won't run well on that.

I'd suggest waiting as long as you can, as prices always seem to go down and if you are saving up, you will have more to spend. Today's $1500 build is August's $1200. In other words, waiting 3 months will allow you to work out the kinks before Crysis, and will allow you to look at an e6600 and a 8800gts for the same money that the 6420 and 8600 cost you today.

Of course, I rarely follow that advice myself...If I gotta have it, I buy it today.
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