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GPUs G81 (GeForce 8900?)

1. Is 1 pump (Swiftech MCP655) powerfull enough to support 2x impingement water blocks (Swiftech Storm) 2x GPU Water blocks (Swiftech MCW60) 2x Northbridge water blocks (Swiftech MCW30)?
1.1 which way is it better to plug in a second pump, one after an other or in perallel joined by Y-tube?
1.2 to maximize performance would it be better to include more water blocks (water cooling RAM adapter) or remove some blocks from the plan (2x Northbridge water blocks) or sugest a combo of water blocks.
1.3 how many and how big radiators should i get? I was thinking of 1x 360mm (Swiftech MCR320 + Thermaltake A2368) size is a problem as the case is pretty small
(Planning on overclocking Opt 2214 from 2.2 GHz to 3.6 GHz)

2. If the pump has a wider outlet does that affect "max-head" (wider-lower, thiner-higher)?
2.1 What is more important in a pump for impingement water blocks max head or max pressure? Or could it be that Flow rate is also important?
2.2 Pump Swiftech MCP655 has 50 PSI max pressure and only 10ft max head,
can someone explane what is the difference between Max pressure and Max head (besides the way of mesuring)

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Max Head is the distance the pump can push water before the flow rate/pressure drop significantly (and i mean bad).

The pressure is how much force the water is being pushed with out of the pump.

You generally want a good balance between pressure and head.

As for the rads, 1x360 should do fine, but with all those blocks I would say go for a 480.

Edit: and that loop will be really restrictive, so you might consider dual pumps, but that's just me, you could get by with a single MCP655 or MCP355 w/ petra top.
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Any recommendations how to rig up 2 pumps togethere, in perallel or one after an other?
Are Black Ice Rads really that good or something, because they cost a-lot-o-money!?!?
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Any recommendations how to rig up 2 pumps togethere, in perallel or one after an other?
Are Black Ice Rads really that good or something, because they cost a-lot-o-money!?!?
They are really good with high CFM fans, which wouldn't be satisfying if you're looking for a low-noise rig, but will be if you don't mind the sound.

I've never ran 2 pumps before, but one after another wouldn't be effective because you'll still get the same flow rate, head, and pressure. I would say run 1 pump at first, but if you feel you're not getting enough flow, get another or have another on hand.

Then place one right before the most restrictive part of your loop and one mid-loop. That would be my best suggestion. For instance, if you run Res>Pump>Rad>WB (storm)>Pump>NB blocks> GPU blocks> Res

That way you can almost eliminate the loss in flow rate the storm would cause.
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If you have two pumps, it is preferable that you just get two rads and make seperate loops. If you do get more than one pump, run them in serial and make sure they are the same model. If it is a restrictive loop, get the DDC-12v instead of the D5 pump. Also, get a Swiftech GT or D-Tek FuZion since they outperform the Storm.

FAQ in my sig about flow vs head.
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If you have two pumps, it is preferable that you just get two rads and make seperate loops. If you do get more than one pump, run them in serial and make sure they are the same model. If it is a restrictive loop, get the DDC-12v instead of the D5 pump. Also, get a Swiftech GT or D-Tek FuZion since they outperform the Storm.

FAQ in my sig about flow vs head.
Why didn't I think of that? lol

You should just get a second rad if you go for the second pump. Get 2x240 rads, which would be much cheaper.
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how about this
Pump-Storm-\\....GPU-GPU....Rad..../-Pump
Pump-Storm-/``````````````````\\-Pump
There is going to be 2x Storms (if you didn't know)

For the Rad. I Think I'll get Black Ice GT Xtreme 480
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If you have two pumps, it is preferable that you just get two rads and make seperate loops. If you do get more than one pump, run them in serial and make sure they are the same model. If it is a restrictive loop, get the DDC-12v instead of the D5 pump. Also, get a Swiftech GT or D-Tek FuZion since they outperform the Storm.

FAQ in my sig about flow vs head.

As far as I know Swiftech GT gets better ratio on the pressure drop because it's not impingement type of water block. Storm gets better performence but lower efficiency.

Edit: here is where i found out about advantage of impingement style water blocks
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I'm just getting the Swiftech H20-220-APEX-GT CPU Liquid Cooling Kits

from newegg http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16835108076

Cause I have no idea to build my own. And if your going with swifttech, there you go, premade one. I hope that helps.
    
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As far as I know Swiftech GT gets better ratio on the pressure drop because it's not impingement type of water block. Storm gets better performence but lower efficiency.

Edit: here is where i found out about advantage of impingement style water blocks
That's an old post though. The Apogee GT pretty much replaces all of Swiftech's blocks. These newer blocks have access to better machining. Search for the waterblock shootout over at XS.
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