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First of all I want to apologize if my english are bad but I am Greek. I do not have to ask only one thing thats why I say general help. I bought it yesterday and replaced my so cool X800 GTO that I had overclocked and worked always like a wonder. I was able to play with it games Like Fear (had random slowdowns) and Oblivion (worked perfect while I had everything high) and other games. I had it rigged with VF900 and it was doing a very good job.

All I did up to now is to check if it will give me any problems and run some tests with ati tray tools. I got a good score with the bench, it was same score as X1800XT and a lil more better, did overclocking test and reached up to 640 before getting artifacts and crushing and used the 3d render window and the heat reached 71 and kept going up and down from 70 to 71. The Idle temp is 46. I am going soon to play FEAR and see how well it goes.

Ok now in what I want help:

1)I want to know for each one of you which is the highest temperature that my gpu should reach and ofcourse stay under.

2)I was thinking of attaching my VF900 on it since the X1950 pro Ultimate uses it but I heard that the zalman heatsinks do not help the memories to cool down much.

3)X1950 PRO 512MB has a big difference with X1950XT 256MB

4)If anyone overclocked it can you please post to up what speed and what cooling solution you use?

5)Which is a good overclocking program to use with my X1950 Pro? I was using AtiTool up to now but I know that even the latest AtiTool doesn't support my GPU.

I have more questions but for now these are more than enough. Again I am sorry for my bad english and thanks in advance for everyone that will help or would help if could.
    
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Hi, first of all.... welcome to OCN.

Unload (running FarCry, Doom3, etc), my GPU hits about 70c with stock cooling.

So far, the highest I've oc'ed to is 630/789 (stock on mine is 580/702).

I use the AtiTool to do my overclocking without any issues when using the CAT7.2 drivers (other versions cause lockups and lower FPS).

One thing that you may not know is that the X1950Pro is already overclocked from the factory so that does reduce the amount we can oc it
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1) Shouldn't be higher than 70C. I get no higher than 55C when OCd
2)If you use the VF900 then buy some Swiftech MC14 copper RAMsinks for the memory, and use the Zalman sinks for the VRMs. If you don't, you will crash in 3d mode IMMEDIATELY
3)The X1950XT is much faster than the X1950 Pro 512Mb
4)When I was running a single card I ran 661.5/823.5 (need more VGPU for higher GPU clocks)
5) ATI Tray Tools OCing with driver level. Make sure to set the fan control to %100. The latest ATI Tool 0.27 should work.
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Yeah I looked around a bit and found out that Pro version is an overclocked GT. Well actually I installed on it VF900 and now on idle i got 38C and full load (i let the 3d renderer window of ati tray tools to work till it reaches the highest) 52C. I managed to overclock it up to 621/803 and it seems to go ok. The idle temp is 39C and full load 55C. I tried to overclock it more but if i raise a bit the core it gives me random colored spots and if i raise the memory then up to about 900 the scan of artifats show me randomly 1 artifact. Seems that without the voltmod that i have seen around i can't raise them anymore. As soon as I will make sure that my card will not be friend in 2 months like i have seen so many to so many to say I will try to do it myself.

I tested FEAR (the in game test that it has) and the test was very bad. The framerate was so bad i can't describe it. The thing is i lowered both computer and graphic power of the game to minimum and still i could see low framerate. Now I am starting to wonder if its my frivers. I use the omega drivers that are still to 7.1 cause with my X800 it worked like a miracle.

About the VRM. I saw that too somewhere that you need to help the VRM cool but i could not find a picture of my sapphire pro that shows where they are. I found only one and the construction was different than mine. I then used the feel-the-heat method and found some places that seemed hot. I installed on them some heatsinks but I do not know if I found the VRM. As you see on the picture bellow the place that I marked red is where I added the heatsinks. It was quite hot there when I was running the 3d renderer of ati tray tools.



There was another little chip on the other side but sadly I ddi not take a picture of the underside and I can't show it right now. I added there one too cause it was pretty hot. Anyway compared to the pictures I have seen its different.



Thanks for the replies and help Zeus and Binormalkilla.
    
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Any of those chips that say "Pulse" get pretty hot. I don't think that the GTs VRMs get as hot, as I think that they don't use a digital interface. You might want to read on that tech powerup thread that I posted above. It has some people with GTs.

It looks like you heatsinked the right chips though.
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Ok i got a new question. I was at some memory clocks and I was seeing big differences between some people. Other have around 1500 and others 750 like me. I finally realized that the other that have around 1500 are 256mb dd3 and the ones that have around 750 have the 512mb ddr3 like me. is that normal?

OMG I just realised that in their site they say the clock is 1400. Seems I was kinda scammed XD. Oh well I am taking it back and I will buy something else. Damn it bad luck..
    
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No don't return it! That's normal. It's like dual-channel memory: you mulitply by two. So having 750=effective clock=750*2=1500. Get the amd clock tool from techpowerup.com and check the clocks. If it says 750 then you're good. If it says 375 then you have a wrong BIOS.
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No don't return it! That's normal. It's like dual-channel memory: you mulitply by two. So having 750=effective clock=750*2=1500. Get the amd clock tool from techpowerup.com and check the clocks. If it says 750 then you're good. If it says 375 then you have a wrong BIOS.
Well I am stupid after all ^^'' Anyway I took it back and they said they will keep it for service. I will go there tomorrow and take it back. No FEAR for today I guess.
    
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The PULSE chip doesn't get too hot though. Those 2 chips that are next to it with a glossy top gets up to 120C if not cooled properly.
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