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http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=407
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Everyone loves Intel ES (Engineering Sample) processors, don't they? They used to be very limited units used within Intel and sent to select (lucky) reviewers. For years, everyone has been chasing for these processors since they used to have their multipliers unlocked. Now, that's an overclocker's wet dream come true!

However, that distinction has blurred with the Intel Core 2 Duo processor. Not only are Core 2 Duo engineering samples far more plentiful, they are easily purchased by all and sundry. However, their multipliers are not unlocked, so that cuts down a little on their appearl.

Still, they are engineering samples. Who wouldn't want them? They could have been handpicked for better overclockability. After all, Intel sends out ES units as review samples. Intel wouldn't send lousy processors to reviewers, would they?

Unfortunately, engineering samples aren't what you think they are. As far as the Core 2 Duo engineering samples are concerned, they should really be considered defective goods, rather than special handpicked samples.
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kinda sad if you think about it... pentium 4 ES's were like hot stuff not too long ago for the aforementioned reasons....
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Someone here had an ES Core 2... it couldn't overclock much at all.
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Some Do Some Dont, It Varies
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its just like stepping... a good week doesn't mean a good overclock, just a better possibility... same for the ES chips, IMO....
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Supposedly the ES CPUs are picked from the center of the wafer because, as with server CPUs, they would be of higher quality than the ones done from the outside. Whether that's true or not is debatable, but in theory ES CPUs would be "better". Now a stepping would have much more of an effect on overclock-ability than anything else would, in this case.
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I had a ES E6300 a while back, and I couldn't get it past 2.94ghz.
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Whatever man, if I am a reviewer, and I am going to be excited either way. Heck, any free hardware is good.
    
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Whatever man, if I am a reviewer, and I am going to be excited either way. Heck, any free hardware is good.
It's not about reviewers, it's about non-reviewers wanting the samples because they're supposed to be the best quality chips.
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I think this could be give or take. I know of a couple people with ES's that have had far better OCing results than with their retail counterparts.
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