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I am setting up a new system that I want to do some decent overclocking on CPU, Memory, and GPU. In order to cool the system I have decided to forgo air cooling and go into watercooling for this system as it will be more silent and more efficient. I have read a number of reviews and 'believe' I have found a good setup. Please let me know what you think or what you might suggest adding/changing in the setup.

First the system

MB: eVGA 680i SLI A1 board
CPU: E6600
Mem: OCZ Flex 9200 XLC
GPU: 2x eVGA 8800GTX Superclocked
HD: 2x WD Raptor 150 "X"
PSU: Ultra X3 1000

For the Cooling system

Pump: DangerDen D5
CPU: D-Tek Fuzion
GPU: DangerDen 8800 GTX full block
MEM: OCZs built in system
Chipset: Swiftech MW30
Radiator: Swiftech MCR-320

Now I also have a few questions:

1) Should I try running a single loop, or a dual loop (one for the cpu/chipset/memory, one for gpu)?
2) Should I bother using a block for both north and southbridge? If not which one would be better to cool?
3) Should I use any blocks for my hard drives?
4) Also some people have used multiple radiators, putting one in the loop between the CPU and the GPU, good/bad idea?

Oh forgot one last question.

for 8800gtx blocks which one would be best?

Innovatek
DangerDen
EK custom
Switftechs MW60 + heatsinks
post #2 of 35
Don't bother cooling the memory. It may yield 1-3MHz improvement. But it will hurt your loop with the restriction.

1) How many rads do you have? The rad you are using should be able to handle everything ok.
2) Air cooling is more than sufficent. The only reason to cool them is for silence or extreme benchmarking. Northbridge is more important since it controls memory.
3) No, hard drive cooling is pointless.
4) Only a good idea if you have an overwhelmed primary radiator and your second radiator is bigger than just 120mm.
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Wait why are you watercooling your mem? there is noo need for that. It will restict the flow of your setup.

1) depends on how big of a rad you have. If you have a big\\high preformance rad, then one loop should be fine.

2) No need for south bridge and north bridge cooling.

3) Hard drive cooling will restrict your loop, and its a waste of money.

4) idk

For the 8800 gtx water block i would go with the DangerDen or the koolance waterblock

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Put a good HSF an the NB...Forget the ram and HDD no need in it...Put some decent cfm fans on the 320 and it should be plenty...I would go with the Swifty block for the GPU its less restrictive and you wouldn't be dumping the ram heat in your loop....

This is the NB cooler I use and I really like it...

...http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcchco.html
Swiftech MCX159-CU Chipset Cooler

...http://www.svc.com/kd1212pmb3-86.html
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Put a good HSF an the NB...Forget the ram and HDD no need in it...Put some decent cfm fans on the 320 and it should be plenty...I would go with the Swifty block for the GPU its less restrictive and you wouldn't be dumping the ram heat in your loop....

This is the NB cooler I use and I really like it...

...http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swmcchco.html
Swiftech MCX159-CU Chipset Cooler

...http://www.svc.com/kd1212pmb3-86.html
Sunon 120mm Ball Bearing Fan w/ 3pin 84CFM 35dBA
For the NB what about using Thermalright's HR-05-SLI?

The memory I want to use cooling on to overclock it. I would have bought the corsair dominator 8888, but it was twice as expensive as the OCZ Flex 9200 XLC for the same performance values.

Also for the GPU, I saw some pictures of swifts new stealth full cover block and it looked very nice, but I am ordering all my parts in about a week or so, don't think it will be out in time. I really like the way the Innovatek looks, but not sure about its performance, and I want to seriously overclock the GPUS as high as I can.
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For the NB what about using Thermalright's HR-05-SLI?

The memory I want to use cooling on to overclock it. I would have bought the corsair dominator 8888, but it was twice as expensive as the OCZ Flex 9200 XLC for the same performance values.

Also for the GPU, I saw some pictures of swifts new stealth full cover block and it looked very nice, but I am ordering all my parts in about a week or so, don't think it will be out in time. I really like the way the Innovatek looks, but not sure about its performance, and I want to seriously overclock the GPUS as high as I can.
The Thermalright are supposed to be good ones...

The problem WC ram is the extra restriction in your loop..It will cause worse tep's for cpu and gpu....These are little toy pumps we use they cant overcome a lot of restriction and still perform well...

I haven't seen the new Swifty...I don't WC my GPU so I don't really keep up with them...The performance diff.. between full coverage and the Swifty I couldn't tell you....I do notice that most of the high perfermance guys use the Swifty or the Maze 4 & 5....
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The Thermalright are supposed to be good ones...

The problem WC ram is the extra restriction in your loop..It will cause worse tep's for cpu and gpu....These are little toy pumps we use they cant overcome a lot of restriction and still perform well...

I haven't seen the new Swifty...I don't WC my GPU so I don't really keep up with them...The performance diff.. between full coverage and the Swifty I couldn't tell you....I do notice that most of the high perfermance guys use the Swifty or the Maze 4 & 5....
I have seen people mention this before because of the need to go from 3/8 to 1/4". I have see people say that If I used swifty F fittings that would help. How much of an added impediment will the WC ram add? Perhaps if I really wanted for showmanship sake and quiet running I could add a separate loop for the ram, heatsink and HD, or even a second pump?
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I have seen people mention this before because of the need to go from 3/8 to 1/4". I have see people say that If I used swifty F fittings that would help. How much of an added impediment will the WC ram add? Perhaps if I really wanted for showmanship sake and quiet running I could add a separate loop for the ram, heatsink and HD, or even a second pump?
WC ram is pointless...Just stick a fan on them and they will be fine..I run over-volted Micron and have a little 60x25mm Sunon fan on it and its fine...
Yeah if you rreally want to run all that for the heck of it just put it on a second loop...Thats what I would do...
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The memory I want to use cooling on to overclock it. I would have bought the corsair dominator 8888, but it was twice as expensive as the OCZ Flex 9200 XLC for the same performance values.

Bon't bother with watercooling the memory. It is a gimic... go check around...
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Not only that.... as i said before.... watercooling memory\
am will Decrease your flow rate. you will get better results by having a 120mm fan blowing on the ram.
    
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