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Unfortunately this debate will probably continue on as long as there are multiple competitors in the field that follow different paths in hardware design. The code from a developer will not run the same on both pieces of hardware, especially considering how much work has to be done by NVIDIA and AMD in the drivers before the code reaches the metal. As such, the performance on the green cards is going to be higher on some titles than the red cards and vice versa, leading some to believe that their favorite team is somehow being cheated.

Even more importantly, as hardware gets more complicated and programming for them becomes more complex and more time consuming, developers are actually going to need MORE of this kind of assistance from the likes of NVIDIA and AMD. The technical assistance and shortcuts that both teams provide are essential, especially to those smaller development teams that lack the resources of hundreds of technical staff.

In my view, the only people that can possibly "police" these developer relations programs are the developers themselves; they are the only ones that see everything both sides are offering up. But because so many of the medium to small developers depend on this help from NVIDIA and AMD, they are unlikely to stand up against them individually. It will take one of the larger, more independent companies like Valve, id or even Blizzard to be able to take the stance on the gamer’s side and stick up for the benefit of all PC enthusiasts.
Cool Article http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=408
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Interesting read, but i'm not really sure how it affects us all too much. Until general benchmarking programs (3DMark) start asking help from AMD/nVidia, we'll always have a somewhat decent way of telling card apart. I mean, its blatantly obvious in the current market that the GTX>R600. And GTS 320< R600. Its also a close race between R600 and GTS 640. But in my opinion, if companies are dying think the battle can be won by gaining 4-5 fps in a game that favours the opponent, then maybe AMD/nVidia needs to bring the competition to something more solid: PRICE.
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Interesting read, but i'm not really sure how it affects us all too much. Until general benchmarking programs (3DMark) start asking help from AMD/nVidia, we'll always have a somewhat decent way of telling card apart. I mean, its blatantly obvious in the current market that the GTX>R600. And GTS 320< R600. Its also a close race between R600 and GTS 640. But in my opinion, if companies are dying think the battle can be won by gaining 4-5 fps in a game that favours the opponent, then maybe AMD/nVidia needs to bring the competition to something more solid: PRICE.
I agree 100%
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Interesting....well I hope that the developers will be able to collaborate with ATI/NVidia. I would hate to see some games play poorly while others fine, depending on your brand of hardware.
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Same. AMD seems to have an "in" with valve though ;\\ If things don't work out, I just pray Blizzard goes with NVIDIA :]

This could get ugly, but in the end I think developers will collaborate with NVIDIA + AMD to offer code that will perform similarly on both hardware. After all, they the largest audience possible to buy their game.
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As long as EA leans towards ATI I'll be happy......
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I agree 100%
I'll second that. Price is the main factor at the end of the day with everything in this world.
    
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Same. AMD seems to have an "in" with valve though ;\\ If things don't work out, I just pray Blizzard goes with NVIDIA :]

This could get ugly, but in the end I think developers will collaborate with NVIDIA + AMD to offer code that will perform similarly on both hardware. After all, they the largest audience possible to buy their game.
Blizzard has some sort of deal with NVIDIA for WoW at least. They offer NVIDIA cards as prizes for contests sometimes and their packaging comes with NVIDIA stuff inside if i recall correctly.

They do generally make sure ATI cards work with their game (obviously) but it's fairly common knowledge that WoW runs better on NVIDIA cards.

However as long as ATI and NVIDIA are both alive I don't think any developer would be stupid enough to only support their game on one brand of card, that would be suicide since gamers don't all buy one type of card.
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Blizzard has some sort of deal with NVIDIA for WoW at least. They offer NVIDIA cards as prizes for contests sometimes and their packaging comes with NVIDIA stuff inside if i recall correctly.

They do generally make sure ATI cards work with their game (obviously) but it's fairly common knowledge that WoW runs better on NVIDIA cards.

However as long as ATI and NVIDIA are both alive I don't think any developer would be stupid enough to only support their game on one brand of card, that would be suicide since gamers don't all buy one type of card.
blizzard is sponsored by nvida yes. and also in wow if hou change settings you see a huge the way it was ment to be played logo
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