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you cant be below ambient temps...
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post #72 of 117
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you cant be below ambient temps...
i can...but you cant...speedfan may not be reading right on your mobo..that happens...try your motherboards utilities...
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everest and speedfan have "cpu temp" thats 33c...but cores are 24c on each
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everest and speedfan have "cpu temp" thats 33c...but cores are 24c on each
does the CPUtemp of 33c go up like TAT does when you load test, or does it just raise a little...if it changes consistant to TAT but lower that maybe your T_case...

My mobo the TEMP1 doesn't change with speed fan, for others it does..

Even speedfan says it can be tricky to find you cpu temp with their software...they suggest monitoring temps and running load and idle tests to find your cpu temp...

So don't bail out on this idea yet...first make sure you are reading your T_case and not the NB or Ambiant temps...


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MaximumPC mentioned this in this month's article. One of the sensors that we assume is temperature is actualy a counter for the processor to know when to throttle. Programs like CoreTemp have to guess at what the shift is need to get to degrees.

I missed that post...thats what i keep hearing on other forums..and i think this is why we see the formula Core Temp = T_junction -DTS...the DTS is a counter for throttle...

someone correct me if i am wrong about that..
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okay, i ran orthos for 2 min, temps on coretemp got to 57c, on speedfan and everest the temps were 43c and "temp 1" only went up a couple degrees, so i know that one is invalid.

is it realistic to be idling at 27c when the ambient is 25c on stock cooling on a 4300 overclocked to 2.4 on 1.275v?
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okay, its obviously inaccurate if im idling at 25c and the ambient is 24.5...\\\\


well, i downloaded ASUS PC PROBE II, and the CPU temperature is the exact same as TEMP 1 on speedfan, check out the attachment...im still leaning towards coretemp, i think that speedfan is wrong
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by the way yours looks i would say speedfan might be right... core temps of 42-43 and "temp1" is 40 so i would go with those
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post #79 of 117
i really think speedfan's and everest's "cpu temperature" is horribly wrong. i just ran orthos for a few minutes and coretemp, everest, and speedfan all had the same core temperatures (55 degrees) but everest and speedfan had "cpu temps" of 37 degrees at idle and after 5 minutes of orthos the "cpu temp" was still 37. so i'm basically going to be going with the core temperatures because it is apparently impossible to to find the tcase.
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this is actually simple to understand, i have always had i higher reading in coretemp(nevercould run tat it just gave an error and closed) but under speedfan my temp3 was the same as my biostar mb monitor, and in core temp i have a 100c t_junction so that is why it reads the higher temp, and i have always went with speedfan cause it made the most since looking at the temps on my individual cores, but this sounds like it could be mb dependant as to what sensors it has and doesn't have i hve like 10 temps in speedfan, 2 of them i have no idea what they are for and they read like 130c and obviously nothing is running that hot cause well it wouldn't work then. but thats just my 2 cents. and Kevg73, thats not the right sensor then thats prob. your nb your tcase will change but only if your mb lets it read it i think that is what is confusing, speedfan doesn't read the t_case for all, or atleast from my experience and not to mention in vista unless i run it as admin. it only loads up and reads the core's and the nb and hd temps.
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