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if you get beryl running using the frglx drives .. please post the links to where you found out how.. ive herd rumurs that it has been done but havnt seen any proof yet.. and if your ditching windows then why use programs like winrar when there are plenty of archive programs that work just as good if not better then winrar.. as far as themes and stuff.. you can goto places like www.gnome-look.org i believe it is and see if they have a link for xfce .. its prob www.xfce-look.org ... its a good place to customize your desktops and other stuff too
    
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if you get beryl running using the frglx drives .. please post the links to where you found out how.. ive herd rumurs that it has been done but havnt seen any proof yet.. and if your ditching windows then why use programs like winrar when there are plenty of archive programs that work just as good if not better then winrar.. as far as themes and stuff.. you can goto places like www.gnome-look.org i believe it is and see if they have a link for xfce .. its prob www.xfce-look.org ... its a good place to customize your desktops and other stuff too
The Ubuntu guide on the Beryl Wiki is missing... again ; why do they keep messing with it??? Anyways, I use this one, after installing the drivers of course (make sure to disable composite extensions in your xorg.conf file). Works perfectly on my laptop's 200M and the 9800PRO on my spare box at work. Just remember to lock your beryl-core version to 0.2.0.
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The Ubuntu guide on the Beryl Wiki is missing... again ; why do they keep messing with it??? Anyways, I use this one, after installing the drivers of course (make sure to disable composite extensions in your xorg.conf file). Works perfectly on my laptop's 200M and the 9800PRO on my spare box at work. Just remember to lock your beryl-core version to 0.2.0.

so its not really beryl its a choped down older version.. is that right ?.. anyway thanks for the faq ill give it a read
    
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It's still Beryl, just not the most bleeding edge build. It's a problem with Beryl + Ubuntu itself and has nothing to do graphics drivers, if that's your concern.
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It's still Beryl, just not the most bleeding edge build. It's a problem with Beryl + Ubuntu itself and has nothing to do graphics drivers, if that's your concern.

i thought it did have something to do with the drivers.. the frglx drivers not yet.. keyword yet.. supporting composite extensions or whatever its called.. i just finished installing ubuntu again.. first thing i did was followed this guide for using beryl with my ati card.. it everything runs smooth..

http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_fei...ryl_ati_radeon
    
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i thought it did have something to do with the drivers.. the frglx drivers not yet.. keyword yet.. supporting composite extensions or whatever its called.. i just finished installing ubuntu again.. first thing i did was followed this guide for using beryl with my ati card.. it everything runs smooth..

http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_fei...ryl_ati_radeon

The current Beryl package for Ubuntu does not have an executable (have no idea why in the good Lord's name that happened) so it simply won't run. The older version is a complete package and works. The only thing driver related is still AIGLX/XGL; Feisty has composite extensions by default and therefore works best with AIGLX; fglrx still has to use XGL, that is why you have to disable composite extensions (and install XGL).

Edit: That guide uses the open source driver, which does support AIGLX. Performance is crap with that driver (compared to fglrx), but hey, it's open source .
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The current Beryl package for Ubuntu does not have an executable (have no idea why in the good Lord's name that happened) so it simply won't run. The older version is a complete package and works. The only thing driver related is still AIGLX/XGL; Feisty has composite extensions by default and therefore works best with AIGLX; fglrx still has to use XGL, that is why you have to disable composite extensions (and install XGL).

Edit: That guide uses the open source driver, which does support AIGLX. Performance is crap with that driver (compared to fglrx), but hey, it's open source .
is there a good way to test performance between the too... it seems to run pretty smooth as far as what ive seen.. of course ive never really played with beryl to much the water effects are kinda cool.. i wonder when it will rain.. and stuff like that but from the splash out wave affects ive seen triggered by sounds went over pretty well.. for me tho i dont really need lots of performance just enough not to bog the system down .. all i use will be beryl .. project M once i get it compiled again .. and some movies .. would you think there would be enough of a gain in those areas to warrent going to xgl to use the restricted drivers.. in glxgears i get around 2400 fps .. with an x600
    
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You can run glxgears to "eyeball" performance (glxgears -info). Someone got 3DMark01 running with Wine if I remember correctly, so you may want to try that. Chances are you won't notice any drastic performance difference under normal usage; you can't really run games on Linux so you won't be able to properly judge GPU performance in 3D environments, unless you count Beryl, but Beryl does not take much to run (my 200M runs it at max settings). Average performance difference between fglrx and radeon (the open source driver) is about half, but again, you can't really notice anything in normal situations. I say keep using the open source driver if it works for you. No real difference anyways, except that it lets you use AIGLX (if you prefer it over XGL).

Edit: This is what I get with my 200M running fglrx and a 2GHz Sempron

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6698 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1333.634 FPS
6667 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1322.937 FPS
6780 frames in 5.1 seconds = 1334.459 FPS
6667 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1327.234 FPS
6637 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1323.105 FPS
6667 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1330.974 FPS
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12672 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2534.347 FPS
12845 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2568.885 FPS
12807 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2561.299 FPS
12882 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2576.262 FPS
12758 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2551.573 FPS
13405 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2680.821 FPS
13445 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2688.913 FPS
13242 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2648.371 FPS
13378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2675.415 FPS
13122 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2624.281 FPS


this is what i get.. i seem to have a problem when i start my session tho.. it keeps loading the gem .. but i have to right click on it and select beryl each time.. its annoying actually
    
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Nice numbers. I bet you can get at least 1.5x more with fglrx, but it's not like you will notice anyways.
I also sometimes get that "problem" with Beryl too. I guess Beryl crashes at startup for some reason. It could very well be due to the radeon driver you're using, since it's listed as having "experimental" 3D acceleration for your particular card. You can try running fglrx and see if it fixes it, but remember to install XGL to get Beryl running again.
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