Originally Posted by mariogreymist
Okay, wait a minute:
1 - The oil industry, aside from environmental laws, is notoriously unregulated making their pricing very unrelated to politics. The reason gas prices are rising is because we, the moron consumers, keep burning the stuff no matter what Shell charges. The price hikes will continue until profit has been maximized. So long as the steady price increases go on, and consumption remains steady, profits will rise.
The reason competition doesn't keep prices down in this industry is because of collusion on two fronts. First, there is OPEC, which sets the prices of crude oil, thus not allowing exporters to compete with price. More importantly, there is collusion between the oil companies. If one major company cut prices by 10% they could get a great market share. (at 20% I might even buy arco) By increasing market share, profits will grow or remain steady, generally speaking.
The one place where politics play a major role in gas prices is in the restriction of refineries. There is no reason to believe that a private company operating a refinery and a few gas stations could not sell gas at $2 per gallon. The problem is getting the refinery built, which requires EPA sign off. The EPA has not approved a new refinery since something like 1980.
Saying gas prices are controlled by politics is a half-truth, at best. While the ability for new players to build refineries and buy crude might well correct the problem (collusion can choke new competition at the supply end too) it is by no means certain. And of course, consumers set the price by purchasing up to a point of diminishing value on the returned product.
Much like my e6600 wasn't worth it until I got one for $200. If the Barcelona is considerably superior, there will be a price point I will consider switching at. If AMD's significant step-up beats Intel's to my price point, I'll buy AMD.
e6600 for the mainstream consumer at their stock speed is only worth it now at 225ish (on the egg) and on Dell hardly. AMD's FX-62 is also not worth their prices.. 319 for something that cannot beat a 400$ processor but the 400$ should be 260 or something....
Prices are ridiculous and that's the suxors. We have to see when everything is finally OUT and some good, unbiased benchmarks.
Originally Posted by pauldovi
By the time Barcelona comes out, Penryn will be out. Intel is beating stuff that isn't even out yet with old stuff that will be dated by the time you will see these in 3rd party tests.
Penryn may be priced at 1000's like the quads were originally and I doubt many of us will be purchasing them...
At an earlier post it really doesn't matter if you have a better product such as Q6600 vs 2 QuadFX currently even if Q6600 sucked butt and was not much better than an e6600 is Intel MARKETED it correctly it would sell. AMD has no cash to market.