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I have no problem buying a product like an 8800gtx that offers great performance, even though it's at a steep price, the problem is knowing that i'm getting kinda ripped-off. I also feel sorry for the retailer because they take the load on selling these expensive products for little profit.
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It seems that its not really about who has the better lawyers in this case as such w/ the ram. Its the amount of people who know about computers on the jury and the judge
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Are all these people shopping at Fry's or what? heh..
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post #34 of 53
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Gaar, I don't get it either. It says "Nvidia confessed to the allegations..." then goes on to say that "Nvidia says it will "vigorously" defend itself" if a class action lawsuit develops...



Know why DDR2 is so stinkin cheap right now? A result of a class action suit just like the one Nvidia and AMD/ATI may see.
my thoughts exactly.
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What could honestly come out of this? only more expensive video cards because they lost alot of money or it's just a plot to get back at nVidia for being so expensive. who knows.
well...technically...cheaper cards. They will be forced to compete against each other once more with pricing...
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hopefully they will lower their prices...
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I still don't get why people constantly parrot the "it only makes cards more expensive if you litigate."

For some reason they cannot grasp what price fixing suits are all about.

GFX developers do research and find that price point $400 will be the competitive price point with the opposing company. Basically where their profits will balance out against lost market share to the competitor. The company is not happy with this, so they secretly agree with the competitor to both price their cards $100 higher and FORCE the market to eat the $100 pure profit by the companies effectively monopolizing the market between the two of them. Now both companies are taking advantage of the consumer and the consumer has no choice but to pay if.

So the consumers find out and litigate, forcing both companies to pay back the ill-gotten profits that would not have been there in the first place had they not price fixed the card at higher than market value. This does not raise GFX card prices. It forces the return of the $100. As an added benefit the card prices drop because they are no longer fixed at $100 above market value.

It's okay to set your own price in the market $100 higher than than what's competitive, you'll be losing your market share to other cheaper products. It's NOT okay to CONSPIRE with the rest of the suppliers to FORCE the market value higher.

I don't know if either fixed anything... with $500+ GTXs... I think their's something afoot.
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Know why DDR2 is so stinkin cheap right now? A result of a class action suit just like the one Nvidia and AMD/ATI may see.
I wouldn't call DDR2 "stinkin cheap," but it's now much more reasonably priced than it was.

Video cards have more moving parts. However, I have noticed that it still takes like $30 to get a decent, 2+ generations gfx card. How does that make sense? Take the 9800 for example.
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I wouldn't call DDR2 "stinkin cheap," but it's now much more reasonably priced than it was.

Video cards have more moving parts. However, I have noticed that it still takes like $30 to get a decent, 2+ generations gfx card. How does that make sense? Take the 9800 for example.
They are only fixing the prices on the cards that are more in demand.
Makes accurate sense to me.
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This is rediculous. We have $1000 CPUs and theyre cheaper to make than graphics cards are.
I heard of some guys who's mom works at intel. They said the actual silicone in a core2 and the box ect is worth about 10$
R&D is some but definately not all making like 20bil a year..
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Advertising is a HUGE chunk of the expenses pie. Take that into consideration. All in all, cards are cheaper nowadays compared to the days of old.
I dont remember cards being up to 800 in the olden days...

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I wouldn't call DDR2 "stinkin cheap," but it's now much more reasonably priced than it was.

Video cards have more moving parts. However, I have noticed that it still takes like $30 to get a decent, 2+ generations gfx card. How does that make sense? Take the 9800 for example.
1GB can be found for 30$ Now months ago i was amazed by a Gskill 2x512 for ONLY 120...
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