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Tubnotub pointed out that there are limitations of my current Abit FP-IN9 650i Mobo when I go SLI with 8800 Ultras.

The limitation is the PCI-E on SLI:
(2*8x)16x max MCP on 650i vs (2*16x)32x max MCP on 680i.

However, techspot says this does NOT MATTER running SLI'd 8800 GTX. In a nutshell, they said 2*8x on 650i vs 2*16x on 680i is non consequential. Quote techspot:

When it comes to memory the nForce 650i SLI supports everything found in the more expensive 680i. As a result you can see there is no difference in performance. In fact the 650i SLI actually delivered slightly better results in SiSoft2007, though the difference was insignificant.

(link)

I ordered this Abit IN9 32x Max today just in case (should be here next week.)

BUT I AM CONFUSED! Is there really a gain in 3dmark06 scores going to 680i from a 650i?
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i think you should get a i680 because you have other added benefits including the dual gigabit lan
 
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You are not actually serious about wasting the money on 8800 Ultras? Get two 8800gtx and overclock them to "ultra" speeds. You'll need the extra money for a better power supply.

Also the OCZ cpu cooler is to put it bluntly a POS. Pick up a thermalright ultra 120 extreme or a tuniq tower and you'll get much better performance.

From a benching standpoint, the 680i dual 16x channel vs. dual 8x hasn't shown any difference in scores. I do agree that there are other benefits to the 680i chipset (like slightly better overclocking for example).
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First off, thank you for linking that article, as it is the first time I had every seen an apples to apples comparison of the 650i/680i chipsets. It was very informative. rep+

As for getting the 680i over the 650i, I still stand by my suggestion. While that article proves that there is very little difference between the the 650i and 680i in as far as GPU throughput is concerned, the 680i is still the better overclocker, supports the 1333 FSB, and has the extra PCI-E slot for physics processing. Utilizing todays technology there evidently are not that many differences, however, the 680i has something the 650i doesn't, and that is future proofing.
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First off, thank you for linking that article, as it is the first time I had every seen an apples to apples comparison of the 650i/680i chipsets. It was very informative. rep+
Thanks! Its damn hard to get a rep around here, and it irks me when someone who joined 1 month after me has 50+ reps for nothing. Sorry for the rant.

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As for getting the 680i over the 650i, I still stand by my suggestion. While that article proves that there is very little difference between the the 650i and 680i in as far as GPU throughput is concerned, the 680i is still the better overclocker, supports the 1333 FSB, and has the extra PCI-E slot for physics processing. Utilizing todays technology there evidently are not that many differences, however, the 680i has something the 650i doesn't, and that is future proofing.
See Tub, my goal is to break top 5 bench. I think I can achieve that with the 650i. This Abit board surprises me all the time. I have clocked it to 3.4 (9x377.77) stable! The highest e6600 I have seen so far is 3.6 (on a 680i.) I guess I need to find this 650i's ceiling before I install that 680i.

Benchmarking and the friendly competition is fun for me.
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Thanks! Its damn hard to get a rep around here, and it irks me when someone who joined 1 month after me has 50+ reps for nothing. Sorry for the rant.



See Tub, my goal is to break top 5 bench. I think I can achieve that with the 650i. This Abit board surprises me all the time. I have clocked it to 3.4 (9x377.77) stable! The highest e6600 I have seen so far is 3.6 (on a 680i.) I guess I need to find this 650i's ceiling before I install that 680i.

Benchmarking and the friendly competition is fun for me.
Oh, E6600's can get MUCH higher than 3.6ghz. I will be running mine at 3.8ghz, maybe 3.9.

If you are paying that much for the rest of your rig, just get the better mobo.

I'd reccomend the Asus P5N32-E SLI 680i.
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You are not actually serious about wasting the money on 8800 Ultras? Get two 8800gtx and overclock them to "ultra" speeds. You'll need the extra money for a better power supply.
More power than 700w? I think it has been proven (let me find the link) that a 500w PSU can power a C2D/SLI rig.

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Also the OCZ cpu cooler is to put it bluntly a POS. Pick up a thermalright ultra 120 extreme or a tuniq tower and you'll get much better performance.
It is an OCZ rebadged Scythe Ninja Plus Revision B, and some members are high on the ninja! Granted it IS better than my old Zalman CNPS8500.
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Thanks! Its damn hard to get a rep around here, and it irks me when someone who joined 1 month after me has 50+ reps for nothing. Sorry for the rant.
Just get your post count up and you will get repped.
As for 650 vs 680... 680 OCs better so go for it.
    
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The 680i also has more slots then the 650i, 3 pci-e 16x form factor slots, 2 pci-e 1x and 3 pci.
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I'd reccomend the Asus P5N32-E SLI 680i.
Yeah i already cancelled my order for the Abit and am really looking into getting this one. I will top out this 650i mobo first and bench it.

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The 680i also has more slots then the 650i, 3 pci-e 16x form factor slots, 2 pci-e 1x and 3 pci.
That does not help me in my scores though.
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